Sarah Palin, VP nominee

I try to keep “who to vote for” politics pretty well off of this blog and prefer to discuss politics in general and better and worse strategies for promoting libraries in whatever political climate we happen to be in. People acutely interested in high level politics in the US who also work in libraries may be interested in this Time magazine article about Sarah Palin. I was very interested in this paragraph.

[Former Wasilla mayor] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving “full support” to the mayor.

Usually I’m just happy to see libraries even mentioned in national level politics, but not like this. Mary Ellen Baker resigned from her library director job in 1999.

note: there’s some buzz being generated that says that this post contains a comment that lists the books that Palin supposedly wanted banned. The list is here, but there appears to be no truth to the claim made by the commenter, and no further documentation or support for this has turned up.

252 Responses to “Sarah Palin, VP nominee”

  1. suzi w. Says:

    Yeah, I’m not so comfortable with this…

  2. tim Says:

    I don’t know, I kinda like seeing libraries mentioned this way too …not so much for what it meant to the Wasilla Public Library, but what it tells the rest of us about a potential future … as an HR-ish friend of mine always said — “past behaviour is usually a pretty good predictor of future behavior.” Cheers.

  3. meanlouise.com » Blog Archive » I have no patience with politicians who try to ban books Says:

    [...] a book banner. I hadn’t seen (or to be honest looked for) any evidence of this until Jessamyn posted about it at librarian.net, with a link to a Time magazine article: Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject [...]

  4. rcn Says:

    Thank you for posting this, I was wondering if anyone would. Librarians go out of our way to be politically neutral, even when we should express outrage or, at the very least, *concern* over such matters.

    rcn
    San Francisco Bay Area

  5. Time says Sarah Palin tried to ban books, threatened AK librarian. » VLA Blogs Says:

    [...] from http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/   « Librarian fired for book on unsavory patrons | [...]

  6. It’s the Thought that Counts » Blog Archive » Palin, take 2 Says:

    [...] mayor she talked to the town librarian about banning books she found [...]

  7. Will Walker Says:

    We’ve learned that the woman McCain calls a reform-minded Washington outsider supported the construction of Alaska’s infamously wasteful “bridge to nowhere.” In 2006, Palin campaigned for it. She also sought hundreds of millions of federal dollars for other pork barrel projects.

    We’ve learned that as mayor, Palin raised sales taxes for pet projects. That’s not uncommon, but it’s not something a conservative reformer does. We’ve learned she recently hired a private attorney to defend herself in an investigation over whether she abused the power of her office to fire a state police official who refused to dismiss her former brother-in-law from his job as a state trooper. We’ve learned she is linked to the Alaska Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to be able to vote on whether or not to secede from the United States. We’ve learned that this so-called family values candidate tried to hide the fact that her teenage daughter is five months pregnant, out of wedlock.

    Amid all these disturbing facts, it’s easy to forget that she is totally unqualified to for the position that John McCain has given her.

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  9. Abraham Z. Says:

    Does anyone have any idea which books, specifically, Palin tried to ban? Not that it matters – book banning is appalling regardless – but I’m curious and thought that perhaps someone here might know or have the contacts to find out.

  10. Liz Says:

    I wonder what books were banned? I bet someone will turn up the list.

    In the school district in Texas where I went to high school in the 1980s, there was an organization called the Committee of Concerned Citizens, who gave the district the list of books to ban every year.

    I wonder if Palin was part of such an organization, or if she had a standard list from her church?

    The specific book list would be so interesting.

  11. Andrew Says:

    This is the list of books Palin tried to have banned. As many of you will notice it is a hit parade for book burners.

    A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
    A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
    Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
    As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
    Blubber by Judy Blume
    Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
    Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
    Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
    Carrie by Stephen King
    Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
    Christine by Stephen King
    Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
    Cujo by Stephen King
    Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
    Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
    Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
    Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
    Decameron by Boccaccio
    East of Eden by John Steinbeck
    Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
    Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
    Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
    Forever by Judy Blume
    Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
    Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
    Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
    Have to Go by Robert Munsch
    Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
    How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
    Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
    Impressions edited by Jack Booth
    In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
    It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein
    James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
    Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence
    Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
    Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
    Lord of the Flies by William Golding
    Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
    Lysistrata by Aristophanes
    More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
    My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
    My House by Nikki Giovanni
    My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
    Night Chills by Dean Koontz
    Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
    On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
    One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
    One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
    One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
    Ordinary People by Judith Guest
    Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective
    Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
    Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
    Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
    Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
    Separate Peace by John Knowles
    Silas Marner by George Eliot
    Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
    Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
    The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
    The Bastard by John Jakes
    The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
    The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
    The Color Purple by Alice Walker
    The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
    The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
    The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
    The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
    The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
    The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
    The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
    The Living Bible by William C. Bower
    The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
    The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
    The Pigman by Paul Zindel
    The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
    The Shining by Stephen King
    The Witches by Roald Dahl
    The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
    Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume
    To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
    Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
    Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff
    Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth

  12. Abraham Z. Says:

    Andrew, can you please tell us what your source is for this list? Thanks in advance!

  13. The accidental Australian » Sarah Palin and the librarian Says:

    [...] I came across a disturbing post by an American librarian on her blog librarian.net.  She discusses an incident in the past poliitcal life of the Republican candidate for Vice President, Sarah Palin. I try to keep “who to vote for” politics pretty well off of this blog and prefer to discuss [...]

  14. Ian Aleksander Adams Says:

    I was also wondering about the source on the list. I’m really concerned about this.

  15. The Wasilla museum and museum politics « Public Historian Says:

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  16. Dan Kleinman Says:

    You folks have to get the facts first, and from an unbiased source, before you transmit pure fiction on your blogs.

  17. Chris Barton Says:

    The book-banning claim would be disturbing as all-get-out for any candidate at any level of public office. But Stein was her political opponent — I’d love to see some more evidence and hear from the librarian herself.

  18. Patrick Nielsen Hayden Says:

    Like others, I would be very interested to know Andrew Aucoin’s source for that list.

  19. Sarah Palin, would-be book banner « Good Readings Says:

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  20. As Mayor, Palin Wanted to Ban Certain Books - Page 2 - Southern Maryland Community Forums Says:

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  21. dw Says:

    The source of the list appears to be this site, which I got to from this site, which I found by googling the very first titles on the list as a single search term (A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle).

    This list obviously has nothing to do with Palin whatsoever.

  22. Ryan Says:

    The list of banned books is inaccurate. Several of the titles listed above, most notably the Harry Potter books, had not been published yet in 1996 when Sarah Palin attempted to fire the librarian.

  23. Blue Herald » Blog Archive » Librarians Aren’t Too Pleased With Palin Says:

    [...] Palin, as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, wanted the librarian to ban books that she felt were offensive. Librarians across the country aren’t taking kindly to that news. Is this what they mean when they say she’s a [...]

  24. Libarbarian Says:

    The New York Times has further information on this issue today, including the news that Palin FIRED the Wasilla librarian:

    “Shortly after becoming mayor, former city officials and Wasilla residents said, Ms. Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books, though she never followed through and it was unclear which books or passages were in question.

    Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every City Council meeting in Ms. Palin’s first year in office, said Ms. Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at one meeting. “They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her,” Ms. Kilkenny said.

    The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to “resist all efforts at censorship,” Ms. Kilkenny recalled. Ms. Palin fired Ms. Emmons shortly after taking office but changed course after residents made a strong show of support. Ms. Emmons, who left her job and Wasilla a couple of years later, declined to comment for this article.

    In 1996, Ms. Palin suggested to the local paper, The Frontiersman, that the conversations about banning books were “rhetorical.”

    Ms. Emmons was not the only employee to leave. During her campaign, Ms. Palin appealed to voters who felt that city employees under Mr. Stein, who was not from Wasilla and had earned a degree in public administration at the University of Oregon, had been unresponsive and rigid regarding a new comprehensive development plan. In turn, some city employees expressed support for Mr. Stein in a campaign advertisement.

    Once in office, Ms. Palin asked many of Mr. Stein’s backers to resign — something virtually unheard of in Wasilla in past elections. The public works director, city planner, museum director and others were forced out. The police chief, Irl Stambaugh, was later fired outright.”

  25. Tomorrow Museum » Archive » Palin Wanted J.K. Rowling Banned From Library Says:

    [...] is an aside titled ‘Palin Wanted J.K. Rowling Banned From Library’ dated 9/3/08 Among other titles, Sarah Palin wanted the Harry Potter series banned from the Wasilla library. It’s a pretty lengthy list including Twelfth Night, Silas Marner, To Kill A Mockingbird, A [...]

  26. neil Says:

    It should be reiterated that Andrew Aucoin’s list is fake. Many of those books (like the Harry Potter titles) had not even been released when Palin became mayor.

  27. ryan Says:

    I find the approach she took more interesting than the actual subject here. As librarians we are acutely aware of the negatives to censorship but that might not hold true for the average American. Personally, I see it as a good thing that Palin questioned the Librarian on the subject rather than attempting to make a blanket decision. As we’ve seen from articles in Time and Newsweek, she does not appear to be the type of person who asks questions first and acts later, and this seems to be a rather positive change from her previous actions. Asking us about censorship only provides us the avenue to express why it is wrong and to have our voice heard. Simply having information does not educate us. We must instead have a conversation about it. As for the Librarian in question, we do not know all of the facts and until we have heard both sides of the story it would be impossible to form an understanding of the truth.

  28. Charlie Says:

    The list cited by “Andrew AuCoin” is not from Sarah Palin. It actually comes from http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html. It’s a compendium of all books banned anywhere in the United States.

    Folks, we need to keep our eye on the prize here. Every time we pass on false or inaccurate allegations, we’re helping Sarah Palin (and John McCain) look better, not worse. Please fact check before you share a rumor.

    Kudos to those commenters who raised questions about the list. And shame on “Andrew AuCoin” for perpetrating a falsehood.

  29. on Sarah Palin Says:

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  30. YDD Says:

    Does Sarah Palin have a college degree?

  31. More information, please « Impromptu Librarian Says:

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  32. Smith Says:

    I don’t think Time or the NYT are credible sources to begin with.

  33. Gene Venable Says:

    :The list cited by “Andrew AuCoin” is not from Sarah Palin. It actually comes from http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html. It’s a compendium of all books banned anywhere in the United States.”

    Pretty obvious when one notes that Solzhenitzin was in the list, not exactly a conservative target. Anyone who DIDN’T realize this was BS should be ashamed of themselves.

  34. mcsey Says:

    YDD: Palin has a journalism degree from the University of Idaho with a minor in poli-sci.

    Can anyone track down these “news reports from the time (that) show” all this?

  35. Alis Says:

    It makes sense to try to have a politics-neutral blog until the politicians start to take shots at libraries. Then all bets are off.

  36. schabadoo Says:

    —I don’t think Time or the NYT are credible sources to begin with.—

    Oh my…classic.

    I think Fox News said it too…

  37. On top of everything else… « I am the Lizard Queen! Says:

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  38. Matthew Says:

    The intellectually alert will be able to discriminate between banning the use of taxpayer money to buy certain books for the public library, and totalitarian government banning books from being read or sold in a country. The former is reasonable public policy, the latter is an infringement of liberties.

  39. Mike Harris Says:

    I would disagree, Matthew, with the concept that a government official should impose his or her individual religious beliefs on the availability of book titles at a government institution funded by taxpayers of multiple religious beliefs should be considered “reasonable public policy.”

  40. jessamyn Says:

    I thought the problem was wanting to after-the-fact remove books from the library that had gone through a formal selection process by a trained professional (the librarian) because of some people’s personal beliefs about the subject matter. I’m in agreement with Mike generally — the reason you have trained professionals working in libraries is so that they can make these selections with the interests of the entire community in mind and also have a grievance process if anyone is not happy with the process.

  41. Matthew Says:

    Let us observe:

    1) Palin never banned any books.
    2) The article states the motive for her inquiry as “some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them”
    3) Despite the above two facts, TIME leads by stating that: Mrs. Palin inserted her religious beliefs into policy in this case.

    The tactic used in the above paragraph is something called Poisoning the Well. A logical fallacy. A false one as well. I would expect a bunch of librarians would be able to see that before a computer programmer came along, since librarians are more versed in literature and rhetoric, IIRC, than most programmers.

  42. annulla Says:

    Jessamyn, you might consider deleting the listed posted by “Andrew Aucoin,” as it has now taken on a life of its own and is being circulated around the net, providing your blog as the source.

  43. jessamyn Says:

    I’ve said elsewhere that I think the comment doesn’t have any merit and I don’t have contact information for the person who posted it, but I feel that deleting it doesn’t really help anything at all.

  44. Brico Says:

    I think everyone is also overlooking something very telling about this article: Pailin said that the conversation regarding banning books was “rhetorical.”
    Am I alone in thinking she meant “hypothetical” and quite possibly misspoke or doesn’t know the difference?

  45. The Ban Wagon. : Just Write Says:

    [...] “rhetorical” means, well, mission accomplished.There has been some buzz about this, and even at librarian.net someone has posted what is apparently a bogus list of books Palin wanted to [...]

  46. Brico Says:

    Oh and SMith and the others citing the Times as not being a “credible source” should look at the article again, as it plainly names Wasilla’s local paper, “The Frontiersmen” as one of it’s sources.
    Is THAT credible enough?

  47. Beauceron Says:

    “You folks have to get the facts first, and from an unbiased source, before you transmit pure fiction on your blogs.”

    What? Why would they bother with that? I would remind you that first Mrs. Palin was an avid Buchanan supporter (this turned out to be a lie), then she was a member of the Alaskan Indpendence Party and wanted to secede from the union (this turned out to be a lie), then she was trying to foist the teaching of Creationism on the public schools (this turned out to be a lie), then there was the wild speculation that her mentally handicaped son was the issue of an incestuous relationship between her daughter and her husband (my personal favorite–if you’re going to slander, at least be creative!).

    I don’t see why anyone should let facts get in the way at this point. Her throat was going to be slit, and so it has been…you might be a bit cautious lending a hand, though. You may feel dirty later.

    Oh, and you might be interested in this article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13084.html

    This allegation stems from a report done by her 2006 opponent in Alaska’s gubanatorial race, and says this:

    “Palin Asked City Librarian About Censoring Books, Insisted It Was ‘Rhetorical.’ In 1996, according to the Frontiersman, Wasilla’s library director Mary Ellen Emmons said Palin asked her outright if she could live with censorship of library books. Emmons said, “This is different than a normal book-selection procedure or a book-challenge policy. … She was asking me how I would deal with her saying a book can’t be in the library.” Palin said in response, “Many issues were discussed, both rhetorical and realistic in nature.” [Frontiersman, 12/18/96]”

    Even assuming Palin’s “rhetorical” claim was an excuse, a discussion with a librarian about censoring books is a very far cry from attempting to censor books and then firing the librarian. I would speculate that, had she canned a public employee like that, it would have been brought up by her opponent .

  48. Banned Books and Unsubstantiated Rumors » Undiplomatic Says:

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  49. Rick Says:

    Your publishing facts before you check them out and willingness to condem without the facts shows your true colors.
    Yes Sarah Palin is an unknown
    But oh how quickly the rumors have grown.
    About banning books and state succession.
    Without sustenance or fact is the confession

    Joe Biden says she has good looks
    How sexist but she’s banning books
    How short her time in politics has been
    Accomplishing more than old Joe Biden

    So you better keep your library job
    Instead of telling you opinions on you blog
    If your prejudice makes you fib
    It exposes you as a lib

  50. Jen Says:

    Whether or not books were banned, the fact that Mrs. Palin wanted to know how one might go about it is enough for me to know that I don’t agree with her on this particular issue.

    Has it occurred to anyone that the Republican party plan may have been to choose a VP that would be so easy to bash that they couldn’t help but to look victimized?

  51. Art Machine » Blog Archive » “What’s Worse” Syndrome Says:

    [...] as to the politics behind such a move that she actually asked a librarian how to do it. (link via librarian.net) Apparently, she’s missed the fact that National Banned Book Week is sponsored by the [...]

  52. jeff Says:

    How much “oil” money does her husband make per year? I will bet three to four times my yearly wage. She is a Bush plant to keep “oil” in the white house

  53. Stop Sarah Palin! The Books She Wanted BANNED! « Mike Cane 2008 Says:

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  56. Lynne Says:

    “I’ve said elsewhere that I think the comment doesn’t have any merit and I don’t have contact information for the person who posted it, but I feel that deleting it doesn’t really help anything at all.”

    It would help, and it would be responsible, to delete a lie that other sites are posting as fact now, and citing this site as a source.

  57. guy Lovin Says:

    I just stumbled upon this blog about palin and not in amazement. I am glad to have read this because it truly supports my own thought on palin.
    Today while watching cnn’s broadcast of the republican convention I had the pourtunity to see and hear palin speak with a congregation of Christians in her state. She was in support of the troops which has been one of her own personal ventures which I personally feel is a great politcal move for any politician today. However within her speech, I mean ganter, she proclaimed that the war in Iraq is a war given to us by god. By this statement alone she makes this war sound like a holly war. Do we need a left winged critical biased thinker to have power? Very thing we have fought for will be lost to those who will gain from these thoughts. We will be set back 30 to 40 years. She is not a woman for all but for the left wing white mens group that will rule over her position as VP.
    I have also read editorials that did comparisons on other presidents. In my own predictions pallin will become very much like a man we do not hear about, does qual sound familiar. She will not do much accept what she would be told. She a mad woman with guns. Shooting up the town with a blind fold on.
    How can this country ever decide to elect someone who basically wants to burn books, change thw laws against abortion gay rights and tell us who god is. There have been other leaders such as Hitler that thought like this.

    Our country is suppose be comprised of free thinkers and people of great understanding of the world. We would be a laughing stock if this woman and mc can are elected. Heck if you believe in her go and burn your intire library of books and then listen to what you are told to do by backward thinkers like palin.
    I just hear Nazism in this platform. Let her stay in her state. They need her to teach what she has taught her own family. Tell me if the teaching of sex before marriage really works or was it the books that your daughter read that taught her to become pregnan?

    Palin is all over the place on issues. The worse thing is that she is using religion to support her opions and personal views. If a Muslim use Allah as a excuse why can she use a Christian god? These ideals are not what this country needs.

  58. researchgirl : parse » riddle me this, Batman. Says:

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  59. jessamyn Says:

    It would help, and it would be responsible, to delete a lie that other sites are posting as fact now, and citing this site as a source.

    I’ve gone to the other sites that I’ve seen citing this and saying that it’s not reputable, I think that’s responsible.

    If the comment were to be deleted then people don’t know what it said, what it looked like, and what the big deal was. It would also leave all the other comments referring to it hanging. If the comment remains, people can look at it, look at the surrounding comments and make their own estimation of how likely it looks to be true (i.e not very, as many commenters here have said).

  60. Dan Kleinman Says:

    I agree with Jessamyn, and this is an outstanding blog.

  61. Sarah Palin, would-be banner of books | The Current Buzz - Tech Says:

    [...] Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 | Fun Tech Time Magazine says that when Sarah Palin took office as mayor, she approached the town librarian and asked how to go about banning books from the town library: [Former Wasilla mayor] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving “full support” to the mayor. Sarah Palin, VP nominee [...]

  62. This is getting more ridiculous even as it gets easier to knock down : Stop The ACLU Says:

    [...] So what books did she ban?  Thanks to the leftist bloggers who have done so very much to advance research and journalism in the last several days, now we know.  Click here.  It seems that one Andrew Aucoin (google doesn’t exactly confirm that Andrew is a member of the Columbus, Ohio, Gay Men’s Chorus, but it doesn’t deny it either), on librarian.net, has come up with the definitive list of the books that Governor Palin tried to get banned. [...]

  63. Beauceron Says:

    “Has it occurred to anyone that the Republican party plan may have been to choose a VP that would be so easy to bash that they couldn’t help but to look victimized?”

    Ah, I see. So the feckless calumny of the left is really the clever disengenuousness of the right? I do wish the Left would make up its mind: first the Right is dumber than a sock full of rocks, next they’re evil geniuses.

    “It would help, and it would be responsible, to delete a lie that other sites are posting as fact now, and citing this site as a source.”

    Censorship? I disagree. The lie was posted, but it was also dissected and dismantled…the very thing a comment section is for…and many of the blogs posting this won’t care anyway. Don’t be naive about politics. That the lie was floated, expanded and given life was always the goal, not the truth.

    “Today while watching cnn’s broadcast of the republican convention I had the pourtunity to see and hear palin speak with a congregation of Christians…within her speech, I mean ganter, she proclaimed that the war in Iraq is a war given to us by god. By this statement alone she makes this war sound like a holly war.”

    That sounds awfully specious to me…but f*** it. I’m always up for a good holly war.

  64. Peter O Says:

    Jessamyn,
    Maybe Include a correction in the original post with the new information, so people don’t have to scroll through all the comments to see the info?

  65. jessamyn Says:

    yeah I added a note, good idea Peter.

  66. Ed Darrell Says:

    I’d still like to know what the books were that were thought to be offensive.

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  68. EvelGenuis Says:

    Rick says:

    “Ah, I see. So the feckless calumny of the left is really the clever disengenuousness of the right? I do wish the Left would make up its mind: first the Right is dumber than a sock full of rocks, next they’re evil geniuses.”

    I think we should stick with the sock full of rocks…

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    [...] (Idiotic rants aside, the Time article really is excellent. Link via Librarian.net) [...]

  70. Todd Says:

    You Die hard liberals need to face the fact. This country was not founded to be a socialist country. If that’s what you want move to China!!! Get off your lazy butts, get a job, and go out and get the American dream. Don’t think Obama will hand you the American dream. He is a liar and if you can’t see that I pity you. Besides America was an experiment in personal responsibility and individual freedoms. In this country anyone can achieve, that wants to work for it. I happen to love this country. Anyone can go to college. Fill out the Federal Student Aid forms and go to school if that’s what you seek. If you are too lazy to fill out the forms there is no help for you. Then work like myself and ever other hard working 29 year old and pay back your debt so others can go to school. Don’t expect me to pay for it. I am paying for mine. So go get it and stop spreading stupid lies, about the greatest female politician ever to grace this great country. This is not high school and our future depends on it. There are people dumb enough to believe your uneducated bull, and we would lose the greatest potential leader of this century. If you liked Hillary then you are a fool not to love this bull dog in Palin. Do your research people. If you really followed what was going on in this world you would have know who Palin was two years ago.

  71. Sarah Palin … or Marge Gunderson? « Life With Gatsby Says:

    [...] she tried to ban books?! Posted by lifewithgatsby Filed in Uncategorized ·Tags: 2008 election, 2008 RNC, [...]

  72. Lori Says:

    Sarah Palin needs to go back to alaska and govern the moose like she really good at that. Do we really want her to be our next President. You know damn well that Mc Cain is to damn old and we will end up with her dumb ass. I just love how she is miss goody two shoes on stage when she is under investigation for using her govern position to have her ex brother in law fired from is job just because he divorced her sister.

    When did we win the war in Iraq? My Son is now doing his 5th tour there and he tells me that it is getting worse day by day. We had no Business going there in the first place. According to Mc Cain and President Baby Bullshit Sadam had weapons of mass destruction and that is was a haven for Aqada. Oh I almost forgot to mention that they also said that we won in Afganistan. REALLY then why is the Talliban and Aqada taking foot hold again. The only reason we went to Iraq was to finish what DADDY BULLSHIT did not finish. I don’t know about you but I sure don’t want another 4 years of baby bullshits crap to be continued by step brother bullshit (Mc Cain).

    She is not any one I would ever trust I am sick of All the Fucking Republicans who say that we need 4 years of the same. Really, you would only say something like that if you want to see this country in a new great depression. We are in debt 5 Trillion dollars and we are borrowing money from China and Russia. How sad is that. The Damn Iraq’s need to pay their own way. Why should this country pay for the stupidity by blowing everything up, and why should the have a savings account in this country of over 5 billion dollars and collecting interest that we have to pay. Let them kill each other and we can collect the money that they owe us.

  73. Steven Capsuto Says:

    The list of books is clearly fictitious as it includes titles first published well after the alleged incident (such as “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire,” published in 2000).

    It seems well documented that she asked about whether books could be banned, so the accusation does not appear to be “calumny” as one poster suggests. But we do not know whether any specific titles were ever mentioned, and it was wildly irresponsible for someone to repost that fictitious list here without doing some fact checking.

  74. SFT Says:

    Wow! I want some of whatever mix of meth & psychedelics Todd’s on! That’s gotta be some good stuff to make you hallucinate like that! Take it easy, bud, you’re starting to froth a little, there. I’m sorry, anybody dumb enough to advocate banning books, or trying to gloss over the position of a candidate who would be a party to that will get none of my time. It shows such a basic lack of understanding of American rights & freedoms that I wish adults could be sentenced to mandatory civics classes. Her list is a good chunk of my bookshelf. Guess I’m lucky she’s not that well read.

  75. Lori Says:

    Sorry to say Todd that I think that if you were so hard working for 29 short year that you need to look up the word Depression. Because of the Dam Republicans this country is in debt. I am a harding working 47 year old single mother of four.

  76. Roger Weaver Says:

    Thanks for posting this Jessamyn!

  77. I know sexy librarians, and you madam, are no sexy librarian « The Tragic Optimist Says:

    [...] out whether she was in to not letting otherscheck out books (the banning books story appears to be true) – something a sexy librarian, or really any librarian for that matter, would. not. do.  But [...]

  78. will shetterly Says:

    If she tried to censor books, that’s enough reason for anyone who loves the First Amendment to fear her. We don’t need to know which books she wanted to censor. It’s like hearing someone wants to burn babies—you don’t have to ask, “Which ones?”

  79. beckett Says:

    it is interesting that one is quick to say Ms. Palin censored books when it appears that she inquired if some books could be banned… and then to draw the analogy to burning babies. She is pro life.. the oppositon pro choice.. and when a baby dies from an abortion you don’t have to ask “which ones”

  80. Warner Todd Huston Says:

    You people aren’t very bright are you? That list of books is a list of books banned over the last 100 years in the USA, NOT any list of books Palin ever wanted banned. If you check this site out: http://www.lib.fit.edu/pubs/librarydisplays/bannedbooks/website.htm …you’ll notice that the list of books banned “at one time or another in the US” is the same list this liar you had on here came up with. Do some research for a change people!

  81. Sarah Is A Book-Banner (Duh) « Out Of My Mind Says:

    [...] info By theseditionist Categories: Uncategorized Tags: Veep Sarah Link. Burn this, Madame Vice [...]

  82. Spil for galleriet? jaja, men … : Modpress Says:

    [...] med censur af det lokale bibliotek, for eksempel: As mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. [...]

  83. Shhhh be quiet no more! « The Central Stream Says:

    [...] http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/ Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)auto-replyShhhh   [...]

  84. SJMeyer Says:

    Really the only disturbing thing against her and pretty well unsubstantiated, For the poster about her being a “Plant for Bush” I’m looking for someone to keep oil in my house too. You all drive cars and heat your homes Alaska does hold 20% of our resources. Here’s my argument I had used when Hillary was still running. I for 8 years watched my wife direct a library, heard all the trials and tribulations and goings on, negotiations with fuculty and administration etc. Does watching that qualify me to run a Library? No Unequivocably No. As for Obama what experience does he bring? 100 plus votes of “Present” thats decicive leadership? How about the Millions of dollars lost through his indicted business partner Tony Rezcoe Or How much of his “Spiritual Mentors” sermons does he really believe? 20 years where they cheer to “God Damn America?” Or William Ayers a proud unrepentant domestic terrorist?
    By now readers may be wondering who I am.
    I’m 42 white, married I have Aids for 24 years I recently battled and won a fight against Hodgkins Lymphoma, I’m a highschool dropout (due to medical reasons) I drive a tow truck for a living I make 14 dollars an hour, my wife has no income, (real estate agent) I’m a home owner in NY State, I pay for my health insurance and as a patient I’m an active, if not voracious consumer of the American health care system. (heres some logic I’m writing this therefore it works!) just like for Ted Kennedy, who also didn’t go abroad for treatment. I am an atheist. I’ve become a conservative. My life runs on oil. It heats my home it warms my bathwater, it runs my company truck, The American System works for me only because I get up everyday and make it work. I took my dropout butt up to the point where I qualify for a job with health insurance, ……
    I digress this is about Sarah Palin, I do not agree ever with banning books except possibly putting Portnoy’s Complaint in an Elementary school library(thats simply innappropriate) (iread it in the 3rd grade to the horror of my teachers) I treasure my rare copy of The Anarchist’s Cookbook, I’ve read everything Hunter S. Thopson every published. I am appalled at how close to Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, the American Left operates. This attack on Sarah Palin is a play directly from that demonize the enemy might be totally unsubstantiated but once its out there its no longer the truth to the allegation its the seriousness of the charge. I am at least very impressed that on this blog many people at least question the validity of this allegation. Librarians are smart people, I married one.

  85. Baby Got Books » Palin the Censor Says:

    [...] it seems to getting harder and harder to do so. This time, it’s actually book-related though. Librarian.net points the way to an interesting piece of political reporting:   [Former Wasilla mayor] Stein says that as mayor, [...]

  86. jeff Says:

    OK so she is a woman, big deal! Less not forget her connection to OIL, (which though you wont believe is why we are at WAR! OIL) She is nothing more than a Bush plant, keeping her search for the almighty OIL well but Iraqi OIL not our own. Anyway DRILLING in ANWR will only send our “new” oil to the highest bidder not America. Since most if not all OIL companies are not American companies, BP (British) But just how much MONEY does this middle class family make? Where are the tax statements showing just how much $$$ her family makes from BP?

  87. Holy Shit America: Climate Change vs Sarah Palin « Blast83 Says:

    [...] did an article about when Sarah Palin attempted to BAN BOOKS in the PUBLIC LIBRARY.  Thank you library blogger.  The head librarian of the library [...]

  88. News Briefs 04-09-2008 | Psychics Services|Psychics Members Site|Psychics City|Course Says:

    [...] Palin, VP nominee… and would-be book-banner (H/T Boing [...]

  89. wheatblog » Blog Archive » Censorship: Refuge of the Small-Minded Says:

    [...] self-appointed ones.  So, while she was never in danger of getting my vote, the recent news that Sarah Palin falls into that ignoble category is one more reason to dislike her and, in my book, one more reason she fails in the basic [...]

  90. marie Says:

    I think this is what exzactly what this country needs,she is like a breath of fresh air!!!!I think that she proves that women can do both,raise a family and work,not just staying at home watching Jerry Springer and having the goverment take care of you.I think she has a very strong voice and not affraid to speak unlike Obama.Go McCain&Palin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  91. gringo Says:

    Something tells me a lot of these posters aren’t the usual librarian blog crowd . . . next week, the Dewey Decimal Scandal!!

  92. Sarah Palin tried to ban books, plus more on her background - Gossip Rocks Forum Says:

    [...] I found the list of books she wanted to ban- although its not confirmed but it was from this link librarian.net Blog Archive Sarah Palin, VP nominee And the link to the list is here librarian.net Blog Archive Sarah Palin, VP [...]

  93. SPM Says:

    Too many liars own computers!

  94. Greg Carlson Says:

    Palin’s inquiry of Wasilla’s town librarian regarding how to go about banning books considered “objectionable” gives us a very revealing and disturbing insight into some of her “not so hidden” agenda. From this alone I would say that McCain has found the perfect running mate to take us back in time, at least to 1984.

  95. Static Interference » Blog Archive » (No Need To) Steal This Book Says:

    [...] – your new VP nominee is a book-banning right-wing-Christian-evangelical-bitch! YAY! Hey, at least the pro-lifer’s now have another [...]

  96. Dadblog » links for 2008-09-04 Says:

    [...] librarian.net » Blog Archive » Sarah Palin, VP nominee "[Former Wasilla mayor] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving “full support” to the mayor." (tags: america politics sarahpalin libraries liberty) [...]

  97. pleiades Says:

    Too bad she isn’t trying to shut down silly blogs.
    The truth is out there, try finding it before you post.

  98. Sarah Palin tried to ban books, plus more on her background - Gossip Rocks Forum Says:

    [...] Oh I found the list of books she wanted to ban- although its not confirmed but it was from this link librarian.net Blog Archive Sarah Palin, VP nominee And the link to the list is here librarian.net Blog Archive Sarah Palin, VP nominee [...]

  99. new_york_loner Says:

    I found this informative site by way of a Google search for – Palin librarian.

    I linked to this page on my latest Journal Entry.

    http://new-york-loner.livejournal.com/19137.html

    Putting aside the Jerry Springer-like Palin Family Saga, I reject the McCain/Palin ticket because it represents a further slide into theocratic governance.

    The “Islamic extremists” often accuse the US and Israel of being “Zionist-Crusaders”. They may be right.

    Sadly, both major US political parties are pandering to the faith-based voter.

    Sarah Palin is an unabashed Judeo-Christian theocrat. Do we dare slip deeper into creeping theocracy?

    Will Sarah Palin play a Pentecostal variation on the Joan of Arc role?

    Holy Wars Suck.

  100. Sarita Says:

    The Harry Potter books were published in 1998 in the United States, that’s 2 years after Palin became Mayor of Wasilla, so the argument that the list is incorrect because of the HP books is not valid. However, I would like to see some cited sources. I do not believe that spreading lies about either candidate is a way to influence voters.

  101. BrianF Says:

    What’s lousy about the list being inaccurate is that the conversation now becomes about that, instead of the real point that she did ask the library about banning some books. This sort of sloppiness just hands the opposition swords. The Republicans will now moan about the fake list (with some justification) while dodging the real issue.

  102. drew3000 Says:

    People should source and check their facts, the list is an obvious one, it’s everywhere and to be honest, I get a little weary of it. It gets trotted out by bookstorees and libraries every year on banned book day. We all now what’s on it now.

    Suffice to say, I don’t really care which book she wanted to ban. That she wanted to ban any book is enough for me to know I don’t want her in any public office.

  103. drew3000 Says:

    I mean, has she even read One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich? Can she read?

  104. LPC Says:

    I don’t agree in banning all books that people make objections about, but we should voluntarily keep certain books out of our libraries out of respect for our constituents. They, after all, are the ones who pay our salaries. Keeping them in our collections as a matter of pride in the fact that we CAN keep them is a snobbish attitude. Not all librarians are as liberal as those making comments here. Our country will continue to become better under the McCain / Palin administration.
    (Can’t wait to read the replies on this one!)

  105. inwitinthemidwest Says:

    When’s the last time any of you non-librarians went to the library? In its ideal form, it’s an endangered species! See the (substantiated & yet verging on the bigoted) tangle over Ann Miketa’s Library Diaries. That’s a poorly written but well-intended lambast of airhead library administrators, who inadvertently aid perves, pedophiles & the more dangerous brand of homeless person, to find a haven in your local library. Hey, perhaps libraries themselves should be banned, neatly resolving the brouhaha above.

  106. rewinn Says:

    I think it’s nice to see Palin supporters support rigorous scholarship in blogging. What a pity they don’t hold the same standard to the Federal government or to speakers at political conventions (…do you really need to have the Bush Administration’s anti-science policy reviewed? Huckabee’s outright lie about the number of votes Biden got? McCain’s rather silly claim that Palin had been fully vetter?)

    As many have discussed above, no list of banned books should be circulated under Palin’s name (…or anyone’s name…) without solid documentation. It is unlikely that documentation exists so the matter must rest where it lies.

    It is a very interesting problem what to do about links to the regrettably misleading posts in this blogs. As discussed above, it’s wrong to delete them, yet there’s a problem retaining them. Ideally, some sort of tagging via the semantic web would enable this blog’s host to identify content the host deems unreliable, but that may have to await Web 3.0

  107. Dan Says:

    Oh, come on! Sara Palin is the best of the 4 candidates out there! “That she wanted to ban any book is enough for me to know I don’t want her in any public office.” Oh, now that’s real mature.

  108. Jen Says:

    Dearest Beauceron, I have never felt that Republicans are dumb. I didn’t say it either. There’s no need for me to make up my mind. Maybe you’re talking to someone else who did say that. I’m quite certain that the leaders of the party are in fact quite brilliant manipulators who do and say what ever is necessary to get or keep power.

    Todd, did something lead you to believe that liberals are not hard working people? I run my own business. I work hard. I don’t make much money and I’m good with that. Its a valid choice I’ve made to work less and spend time with my family more. I’m not wealthy, I’ll give you that, but I receive no government handouts. No one supports me except myself. I pay my taxes to support my community with pride. Then I go out of my way to donate more to worthy charities. Please don’t confuse compassion for laziness.

  109. new_york_loner Says:

    The MSM has barely mentioned Todd’s 7-year membership in the AIP, the Alaska Independence Party, or Sarah-Cuda’s speeches before the AIP conventioneers.

    The AIP is a fringe group that advocates for a plebiscite on the question of Alaska seceding from the union of American states.

    The GOP has played all this down, but it’s been a long time since a secessionist sympathizer ran for such a high office.

    Hopefully, Sarah-Cuda will be quizzed on this AIP connection during the debates.

    If Senator Obama had addressed a secessionist party’s convention, the GOP would certainly make a big fuss about it.

    The US federal government purchased Alaska, on the cheap, from Russia, in 1867. I’m sure that today’s Russia would quickly recognize any American breakaway state, especially one on its eastern border and one with “Russian roots”.

  110. McCain’s VP pick a book-banner? | Library Tech Confidential Says:

    [...] “Mayor Palin: A Rough Record” in Time Magazine, via Librarian.net : [Former Wasilla, Alaska Mayor John] Stein says “[Palin] asked the library how she could go [...]

  111. eclecticism » Blog Archive » Links for September 3rd through September 4th Says:

    [...] Sarah Palin, VP nominee: [Former Wasilla mayor] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving “full support” to the mayor. [...]

  112. Libarbarian Says:

    Perhaps Palin, after her “rhetorical” conversations about banning books, found a better way: why bother banning books when you can fire the librarian? And this silence-by-firing seems to be a key tactic in Palin’s career. I wonder if Palin ever checked “The prince” by Niccolo Machiavelli out of the Wasilla Public Library? Because her methods seem quite Machiavellian! (“The Prince” is currently on the shelf at Wasilla PL. The audiobook is checked out currently. Hmmm.)

  113. Julie Says:

    SJMeyer, My home and car run on oil also. Don’t you ever wish they didn’t? Don’t you ever wonder why the most technologically successful nation still uses 100 year-old technology to get anywhere? Boy, I do.

    I come from a town about the size of Wasilla. Elected officials here have enough sophistication to answer questions about library censorship without even taking it as far as the librarian. Public policy here supports the independence of our libraries.

    She apparently did not ban books, and without proof I would never claim that she had. But we are not talking anymore about the standards to which we hold small-town mayors. We are talking about a person who could end up being our president. For her to go even as far as to mention book-banning several times, to several people, and at official meetings makes me wonder about her fitness. She is no criminal, no Hitler, or any other of the ridiculous things that people tend to shout at times like these, but does she really understand constitutional freedoms? Does she get it? Good thing to discuss!

  114. The Case Against Sarah Palin « Stoneman’s Corner Says:

    [...] energy, climate, environmental, food, and health needs. Palin’s alleged mayoral threat to fire a librarian who would not ban some books also suggests how little she appreciates the need for teaching [...]

  115. Wasilla Library Lover Says:

    Get the full story here: http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

  116. Rauch Says:

    Todd,

    I am a liberal Democrat. I usually do not go around bragging about how I love this country, but your e-mail seemed to imply that liberals do not. I truly believe I am very fortunate to have been born and raised in the USA. In some respects I must be a conservative for what I want is the government to get out of telling doctors what procedures are proper concerning abortion and for the government to get out of the religion business. I fear Gov. Palin does not want the government to get out of religion. (How can people who trust government the least want the government to say “Let us pray.”) I have no problem paying my taxes, and I do pay my share, to help the disadvantaged simply survive. And yes I do not want to spend money on a lazy SOB who will not work. But those truly are very very few.

    I too do not like the deficit spending by either party. The worse mistake George Bush made, beside the “war”, was to never ask us to pay for the “war.” Six years of Republican majority in house and senate only increased the deficit. So, Todd, argue the issues with me. Tell me what you would do for the disabled in this country. What would you do about public education? How long should we continue to throw money at Iraq? What role should the government take concerning religion? But do not shout at me because I am a liberal. Try to out think me, not out shout me. And for my fellow liberals who have called you names – shame on them!! They should have more class. This is not about who can make the most outrageous statement, but who can actually propose a solution. We will probably agree on what the issue is, but just disagree on what the solution is. That is where the debate belongs. Unfortunately we all know that is not where the debate will be.

  117. Rick Welch Says:

    See http://www.washingtonindependent.com/3671/the-reform-candidate scroll down the main article to Anne Kilkenny’s response to the article.

  118. eyaz Says:

    As interesting as a list of the books Palin actually wished censored would undoubtedly be, there’s this somewhat more practical question:

    Why did she attempt to dismiss this librarian in the first place? In fact, I should contend the matter perhaps more pertinent to Ms. Palin’s mindset, political tactics, and general governmental policy and cultural views than the list, not to mention whatever reasons the librarian eventually left the job, and the town, for.

    Why did Ms. Palin want her out? Perhaps it was justified. Perhaps it wasn’t at all actually justified, and not whatsoever.

    Why did she want her out to an extent where a citizen’s group needed to organize, even to a small degree, in order to prevent the dismissal?

    Is Palin one to arbitrarily bully “intellectual types” simply as a general loyalty test/ strategy/ what-have-you? Or is this merely another smear job about a simple misunderstanding in a tiny U.S. hamlet by, for instance, Time magazine, as some of her supporters who take exception to the curiosity about her actual political and governing record have been so busily contending? She’s got a clear opportunity to obtain the United States Vice Presidential post, now.

    It’s somewhat doubtful, given the town’s open rallying to the librarian’s defense, that Ms. Palin’s reasons for wishing the librarian fired were entirely justified. It is poetic, noble, and psychologically informative to contemplate what Mayor Palin may have wanted banned, of course, but those of us who see Palin’s acceptance speech as a clarion call to seriously resume and escalate the “culture wars” in the national political arena really ought to take some serious note of this matter of why the librarian was (temporarily) handed her hat by Ms. Palin– even if the librarian wishes now to be silent, and even if we’re just discussing, for the present, small-town Alaska.

  119. Sarah Palin: Rewriting History Says:

    [...] chief for refusing to treat her campaign contributors as “above the law”, tried to fire the city librarian for refusing to ban library books that conflicted with her personal religiou…, etc., etc…) and questioning the patriotism of her Democrat opponents (when she’s [...]

  120. Kimberly Says:

    The new mayor (Palin) asked the librarian if she (the librarian) would object to having questionable books removed from the library. Four days prior to this question, Sarah sent letters to the staff of the previous mayor asking for their resignation which is customary in a new administration. The librarian resigned in 1999. Happens a thousand times a year in towns and cities all over America.

    Liberals just won’t quit.

  121. Need info Says:

    I do not like hearing this; however, info given by another “former mayor”, possibly an opponent. With all I’ve been hearing about candidates’ supposed histories (both Obama & Palin) I’m very concerned about its accuracy. (The web stated Obama was Muslim, I mean please!)

  122. winifred Says:

    Has it occurred to anyone that the person making most of these specious and spurious claims about the book banning is the man who was defeated by Palin for the post of Mayor of Wasilla? Wake up people and pay attention to the sources and their reasons for making the accusations.

  123. palin librarian Says:

    [...] to discuss politics in general and better and worse strategies for promoting libraries in … http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/Read “Re: McCain/Palin??” at The Grill 2007 Forum…twist. &quotWe want to see Ivana,&quot said [...]

  124. eyaz Says:

    Why did Mayor Palin wish to have the librarian dismissed, once Palin had made her “rhetorical” inquiry? This isn’t a “liberal” question, it’s a natural one. Perhaps this is part of the town’s charter, then, hm?

  125. Rauch Says:

    It does not happen thousands of times where all executives in a city are asked to resign when a new person is elected mayor. At least in my area of South Carolina it does not happen. I think she has an ego and simply wants to control things. If I am correct during the debates she will be confrontational with whoever is asking the questions.

  126. Emma Speaks? Says:

    Ms. Emmons,

    You have a moral obligation to your fellow citizens to comment for the record to at least one reputable National News Source on the veracity of this allegation.

    Reputable National News Sources,

    Get off your asses. How many Mary Ellen Emmons former librarians can there be in Alaska?

    Everyone else,

    How many reputable National News Sources do you think there actually are?

  127. David Says:

    Excuse me Kimberly?
    The Republican machine has built entire careers and presidencies on questioning (and outright smearing) of “liberal” candidates. How about the shameless swift-boating of John Kerry, and even W’s 2000 primary campaign stating McCain had “illegitimate” children? (But somehow Palin’s pregnant daughter should be off the table?)
    And as long as we’re on the subject: McCain left his first wife while she was fighting cancer and our potential next first lady was mistress. If Obama had done that how huge would it be in the news right now?
    Don’t complain about sleazy tactics when your party has thrived on them for decades.

  128. Retired Teacher Says:

    I was looking for factual information. Remember, a fact is a statement that can be proven to be true or false with the use of valid evidence. Most of what many of us write is simply opinion. For example, Todd claims Palin is “the greatest female politician.” This is a claim that simply cannot be proven. How do you define “greatest?” The word is an abtraction. How do you know Obama or anyone else is a “liar?” Are you a mind reader? Only God knows the human heart. When seeking for truth, point of view must be considered. Your perception of truth is your truth.
    Let’s try to decide this election on the issues and not on name calling. Even the words liberal and conservative must be defined. They are also abstractions. I suggest that we all go to the public library and read American History and American Literature. I think you will find little has changed. Classism and racism are still alive and well. That is my opinion, but I know I could prove my case with facts. May God be merciful to us all.

  129. Amy Says:

    Listen,
    I know we all have strong opinions about the people running for office at the moment. That’s one of the things that makes America beautiful. I would please ask all of the readers, bloggers and voters to think about this; just because something is in print does not make it true. You must have a primary source. I studied History and Political Science — especially the news media’s effect on politics; I am ashamed at the way our major networks and major newspapers are behaving during this election season — what happened to point-counterpoint? Where is the balance? Where is the unbiased fair time on the networks? I suppose the pendulum must swing, are we back to the muckraking days of journalism? And yet, this is still America, a country of free speech, and what an exciting election this has become! Discover the TRUTH before deciding an opinion is fact.
    Sincerely,
    A Former Librarian

  130. Sarah Palin, would-be banner of books | The Current Buzz - Tech Says:

    [...] Thursday, September 4th, 2008 | Fun Tech Time Magazine says that when Sarah Palin took office as mayor, she approached the town librarian and asked how to go about banning books from the town library: [Former Wasilla mayor] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving “full support” to the mayor. Sarah Palin, VP nominee [...]

  131. JC Says:

    As expected, the rumor is false: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13084_Page2.html

    From Politico:

    ‘In 1996, according to the Frontiersman, Wasilla’s library director Mary Ellen Emmons said Palin asked her outright if she could live with censorship of library books. Emmons said, “This is different than a normal book-selection procedure or a book-challenge policy. … She was asking me how I would deal with her saying a book can’t be in the library.” Palin said in response, “Many issues were discussed, both rhetorical and realistic in nature.” [Frontiersman, 12/18/96]‘

    There was no threat, there were no banned books. Constituents complained, she asked, and she was answered.

    There’s a list circulating on the Internet claiming to be the list of books Palin asked to be banned. It’s a fake; some of the books on the list had not even been published in 1996 when this incident occurred. The list is from http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html, and is a list of all books that have ever been banned anywhere in America.

  132. As I was saying… » Blog Archive » Books Palin doesn’t like Says:

    [...] The people at Galleycat are usually a pretty reliable source but I really question whether anyone would actually ban A Wrinkle in Time. It’s one of my favorite books.  For more on this matter, check out Galleycat.com or  http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/ [...]

  133. MV Says:

    Long on accusation, but short on facts. I seem to recall something from the US Supreme Court relying on the application of “contemporary community standards” in determining what might be obscene. Who sets these standards? The members of the community! If an elected official is asked or petitioned by the voters to determine if and how certain objectionable materials be removed from a public facility, should that official research and respond, or ignore the request?

    I think we’d all agree that there can be some standards applied when public funding is used in the purchase and distribution of items in a library. For instance, should the public library have an adult-video DVD for loan along-side mainstream Hollywood flicks? Should they offer Hustler and Penthouse? At some point, some members of a community will draw a line and say here, but no further. Different members of the community will draw the line in different places. So, argument will inevitably result when people differ on where this line is drawn.

    Note that there is nothing in the Time, NYT, or Frontier piece that indicate that anything WAS banned; that this was anything other than follow up on a voter inquiry; or that this was Sarah Palin attempting to impose her views. But that hasn’t stopped any of the many partisans here from seeing what they want to see.

    To the liberals here, now that you’ve established your free-speech bona-fides, tell me now how you feel about your party’s plans with the so-called “Fairness Doctrine”.

  134. links for 2008-09-04 | blogTHOUSAND! Says:

    [...] librarian.net » "Sarah Palin, aspiring book banner." Time Magazine says that when Sarah Palin took office as mayor, she approached the town librarian and asked how to go about banning books from the town library. (tags: politics censorship) This was written by 5000!. Posted on Thursday, September 4, 2008, at 3:01 pm. Filed under misc. Bookmark the permalink. Follow comments here with the RSS feed. Trackbacks are closed, but you can post a comment. [...]

  135. Gossip and you » Blog Archive » Comment on Sarah Palin, VP nominee by Emma Speaks? Says:

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  136. Jen Says:

    MV, I’m afraid you simply don’t know what you’re talking about here. Librarians are educated specifically to make those choices is a way the suits their community. Then the community is always invited to challenge the library’s selections if they should find something to be inappropriate. These challenges are a welcomed part of the process of making a library that works for the whole community. This is the way it’s done all over the country and it works. If anyone has a problem with an item in the library, the correct way to deal with it is to file a challenge. That goes for voters and mayors.

  137. Amy Says:

    Or to refile it. ;)

  138. Lynn Gregory Says:

    Just one more thing to keep in mind when stepping into the booth on Nov. 4…

  139. Sloan Says:

    Jen, from everything I’ve read here and elsewhere regarding this issue, it seems like Palin was making inquiries on behalf of concerned citizens. Maybe she wasn’t following the appropriate process, but then she’s not a librarian so far as I know. How many members of the community actually know the process for filing a challenge to a book? Might they instead, upon hearing about a particular book, call the Mayor’s office, or a state representative? Yes, they might, and that’s probably what happened. Palin looked into it, but she never acted on it.

    What bothers me especially is that REPORTERS, time and time again, have demonstrated that they are unwilling to take a little extra time to get their facts straight. Sarah Palin has also been accused of slashing funds for special needs programs; a minute or two of Googling provides the information to show that the whole story is hogwash:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/newest_palin_smear_she_cut_spe.asp

    ZOMG it’s the Weekly Standard!! But hopefully those interested enough can set aside, for a moment, their disdain for all things conservative, and just read the article.

  140. paul Says:

    A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
    Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
    Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
    Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
    Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
    Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
    Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
    James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
    Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
    Lord of the Flies by William Golding
    My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
    Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
    One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
    One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
    One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
    Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
    Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
    The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
    The Bastard by John Jakes
    The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
    The Color Purple by Alice Walker
    The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
    The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
    The Living Bible by William C. Bower
    The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
    To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
    Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
    Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff

    I HATE THIS BITCH! SPREAD THE LIST! EVERYONE COPY, PASTE AND REPOST!!!!!!!!

  141. Brave New Wave - Children of a Lesser Revolution Brave New Wave 450 Says:

    [...] The woman who could possibly be a heartbeat away from being the leader of the free world once threatened to fire a city librarian for refusing to ban books… [...]

  142. voter? Says:

    Let’s give it time. I really think we have much bigger issues in this country than a complete blog about book banning, which at this time, there is lots of speculation if and what of it is true. Let’s be mature about all the candidates and the real issues–education, homeland security, health insurance, crime, respect of life,huge financial burdens, from foreclosures, credit card debt to paying for everyday living expenses. You get the idea, don’t you???????

  143. Elsie Cubero Says:

    Gov Palin address the Wasilla AG Church in June 2008:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

    This woman is tuly frightening!

    Note that there are many, many references to Alaska, the wealth it has and the additional benefits that should come to Alaska, but the only reference to the entire United States is that Alaska will serve as a refuge for hundreds of thousands from the lower 48 “in the last days.”

    Unfortunately, the link to Ed Kalnin’s hundreds of recorded sermons (since 1999) no longer works. It worked earlier this week, because I visited the page, but I did not listen to any of them (too many!)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

  144. DoktorZoom Says:

    Paul? As the young folks say, RTFA. As the young folks also say, EPIC fail.

  145. booksniffer Says:

    A couple of years ago in White Salmon Wa., our newly elected Mayor fired a recently hired chief of police, who subsequently sued for wrongful termination, and won a sum in excess of $1,000,000 . We can’t afford to repave our sorry streets, but our Librarian and library remain top frigging drawer, the true, and INCLUSIVE center of what is a very small town. Need to register to vote?

  146. Jake Says:

    The list posted is garbage, they lifted it from here:

    http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html

  147. Brian Says:

    Actual list has leaked: Sarah Palin Banned Books List

  148. EastAnon Says:

    Sloan,

    “Jen, from everything I’ve read here and elsewhere regarding this issue, it seems like Palin was making inquiries on behalf of concerned citizens.”

    This is just guesswork on your part. If that were true, why did Palin have her fired??
    .
    “How many members of the community actually know the process for filing a challenge to a book?”

    So you actually support the banning of books, if done through the proper channels?
    .
    Palin is acting like a dictator in Wasilla. She has spread lies, tried to strongarm several people, and yet you defend her. Why is that? Why would you want a proven liar in the Whitehouse??

  149. idov Says:

    This is undoubtedly true since someone said so and it needs no further examination.

    She also faked her latest birth to protect her daughter.

    She was a Nazi sympathizer.

    She was on the grassy knoll.

    She had a broom in her house which she used to ride on a full moon.

    It said that that six million women were burned over the centuries on the basis of similar charges. They know what they were doing in the old days. Otherwise women will get uppity.

    As for men? Just because a politician gets a sweetheart discount on his property from a criminal, that’s nothing. Consorting with terrorists, it can happen to anyone. Voting against a bill to outlaw infanticide? That’s the way to control global warming, keep the population down.

    Both sides can play this dirty, but only one side does. It won’t help. The people didn’t buy the smears against Reagan, that he molested his son at age 8. And they won’t buy these.

  150. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin Is McCain's VP Pick - Page 52 - Tech Support Forums - TechIMO.com Says:

    [...] Originally Posted by Steve R Jones Over at Librarian.net, one of the commenters listed the books Palin tried to ban from the library including such literary gems as: A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle Brave New World by Aldous Huxley Catch-22 by Joseph Heller Anything by Stephen King Everything by J.K. Rowling Most of William Shakespeare’s work and my personal favorite Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff Sarah Palin, Book Banner? – mediabistro.com: GalleyCat The list cited by Andrew AuCoin is not from Sarah Palin. It actually comes from Banned Books. Its a compendium of all books banned anywhere in the United States. librarian.net Blog Archive Sarah Palin, VP nominee [...]

  151. kglore Says:

    The real question to ask is why did Palin fire the librarian who was well liked by the town and had been in her position for seven years? Loyalty test? Is that how she will govern if she is ever president of this country? Palin calls herself a pitbull, and that metaphor is very telling when we look at her history of firing personnel without cause. Pitbulls attack viciously without provocation. Is that the kind of temperment we want in a leader? Also, maybe the press should ask Palin what she thinks about the Harry Potter books and if she allows her kids to read them. If she answers along the lines of her right-wing Christian fundamentalist beliefs, then her answer may scare us all!

  152. slm Says:

    If you can find anyone – have them walk into the Frontiersman (the Wasilla newspaper) and ask to see the archives. There are editorials and news coverage of this – including names of the books (some). Ask one of the reporters or staffers from that era.

  153. Todd Says:

    Response to Lori:

    First of all the definition of Depression is as follows: Any time when the GDP decreases by more than 10%. Recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth. The GDP increased 1.9 % last quarter. You may be in a personal depression, but the country is not!!!! Yeah I spent my time getting an education when I was young not partying. Choices, is what it is all about Choices!!!!

    You blame the Republicans; well Democrats have been in control of congress. Nothing gets passed with out congress. While they are on vacation right now the Republicans continue to go to the house chambers and debate economic issues. They demand a vote on economic issues that the DEMS keep blocking votes on. The housing crises is in part to legislation pushing banks to make less favorable loans, so everyone can get a house!!!! If the didn’t they faced heavy penalties. Again DEMS passed this legislation. We no you can’t afford the house because you have made bad decisions in your life but we will force the lender to give you the money. Do your research!!!!

    Now let’s see a single mother of four. This may not apply to you if you are a Widow and if you are I am sorry. If not well lets see you made choices not to get along with your husband!!! Or you have multiple babies’ daddies!!! Maybe he was just a jerk and cheated on you or was a bad father. I understand there are dead beat dads. Well again you should have had better judgment in choosing a mate. Again it’s YOUR CHOICES. You are not making enough get a better education!!! Make your self indispensable. A single mother of four will have it all paid for, with child care provide. Fill out the Aid forms. There are professionals on any campus that can assist you. If you have a good education, then changes professions. It was your choice to do what you do. Again it’s all about choices. I have made bad life decisions in my life we all have. I hated my career and did not make enough, so I made a Choice!!! I WANTED A BETTER LIFE. I WORKED FOR IT!!!! I have not made the bad decisions that you have. Why should I have to pay more for people that are not willing to make the same self sacrifice in there life that I have.

    I am sick and tired of people making bad choices in there life and expecting us that have made self sacrifice bail them out. By the way Stein was the incumbent she exposed for corruption, and beat. That is the only source of book banning. Of coarse he is bitter. The reference was in Time a CNN (Clinton News Network) Publication. There is NO evidence to support his claims. CNN is famous for this. Make a good decision people Palin is a great American. YOU WANT CHANGE then vote all you DEM congressmen and senators OUT.

  154. Gabrielle Faust Says:

    I’ve been hearing now that the librarian was “forced” to retire by Palin so that she could be replaced with someone more in line with Palin’s belief system. I’m terrified of Palin. She truly strikes fear in my heart and makes my blood run cold. As both and author and a woman, I feel my entire life is in jeopardy if she is elected. I might as well just start my papers to move to Canada. I’m so depressed….

  155. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin Is McCain's VP Pick - Page 53 - Tech Support Forums - TechIMO.com Says:

    [...] comes from Banned Books. Its a compendium of all books banned anywhere in the United States. librarian.net Blog Archive Sarah Palin, VP nominee oops! Mayor Palin: A Rough Record – TIME [...]

  156. Maryjo Says:

    I am not buying into the list of books in which Mrs. Palin supposedly wanted banned, as many of those books were published before she was born.

    Perhaps she wanted those books banned from public schools and or public libraries. Besides, not even a governor can ban books without a majority of public support.

    If she wanted even one book on the list banned, if it’s true… that is disturbing.

  157. Michael Says:

    Response to Todd -

    You are under the impression that people are capable of making great choices all the time. You most likely are not capable of making great choices all the time (obviously you chose a bad career initially), but you have the benefit of having the ability/situation to get out of them.

    Most people don’t have the same capabilities. If everyone were smart and capable, there would be no one to do the menial jobs you take for granted. People are going to make bad choices – and we need to take care of them. It’s our responsibility. Watching Cindy McCain talk about neighbors coming together and helping out, communities helping from halfway across the country, then wanting to cut social programs – apparently most Republicans would just as soon let people who make poor decisions perish. Look at the way society works from every angle. Most businesses would just as soon screw the customer and make more money. Most businesses are not capable of self regulation. Most people are not intelligent. Most are hardly capable of taking care of themselves, much less others.

    Palin is an ultra-conservative-right-wing-religious “person” from a very small state, in charge of a very small government, and a very small budget (the 11Billion number people like to throw around – she doesn’t have ANY control over that). She would do away with abortions, even for rape victims. She would attempt to impress her views – even on reading material – on everyone in the US. Republicans decry the Middle East’s treatment of people but attempt to impose the same treatment on it’s own citizens? Who is at fault here Todd?

    Before you go on the regular EMOTIONAL Republican rants – take some time to step back, look at the logic, theory, inner societal workings, and then decide which party you want to vote for.

  158. MV Says:

    “MV, I’m afraid you simply don’t know what you’re talking about here. Librarians are educated specifically to make those choices is a way the suits their community. Then the community is always invited to challenge the library’s selections if they should find something to be inappropriate. These challenges are a welcomed part of the process of making a library that works for the whole community. This is the way it’s done all over the country and it works. If anyone has a problem with an item in the library, the correct way to deal with it is to file a challenge. That goes for voters and mayors.”

    Jen -

    Please re-read my post. I didn’t attempt to describe the process, or imply anything other than what you state as standard library policy. However, other than librarians and a few that might have gone through the exercise, I doubt many people know what you point out.

    What I did state is that the community-standards test has been upheld in other cases when it comes to what is and isn’t deemed obscene. As you point out, members of the community can challenge the selections made by the librarian. The librarian then sees the challenge through the process. But, ultimately, the librarian is not a dictator, and is accountable to the community, through the elected leadership that he/she reports to.

    It would appear from the reported accounts that the newly elected Mayor Palin made an inquiry on a voter’s behalf regarding materials that voter deemed inappropriate. The librarian dutifully explained the challenge process. The end-result was that no books were banned, and there’s no indication from the Time, NYT or Frontier that specific titles were mentioned or discussed. In fact, at least one of the pieces states that this was a rhetorical exercise only.

    It’s true that the librarian ultimately lost her job, but there’s no proof that firing was related to this discussion on challenging books available in the public library, at public expense. That’s not to say it wasn’t related, but where’s the proof? It’s just as likely that the librarian was a political-hire by the former Mayor, and was an antagonist to the new reform-minded Mayor, and earned her displacement. Again, there is no evidence presented that links the two events.

    As a result, and to re-make my initial point, some people will look at this and it will reinforce their already-held thesis: Republican=bad, conservative=bad, religious=bad, gun-owner=bad. People like this cannot be reasoned with, as their minds were made up before ever seeing this.

    No about that so-called “Fairness Doctrine” the Dems are pushing …

  159. Jerry Stephens Says:

    Perhaps I’m naive, perhaps I’m out of touch. But can anyone explain why Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary would be on any list of censored books? If it’s the inclusion of any particular word or words then it would seem that most comprehensive dictionaries would also be candidates for lists of this type. Maybe someone can help me here.

  160. Nico Moon Says:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 9:55 MV stated:

    “It’s true that the librarian ultimately lost her job, but there’s no proof that firing was related to this discussion on challenging books available in the public library, at public expense.”

    Actually, that’s not true.

    Regarding the librarian in question, The Ancorage Daily News reports on September 4th, 2008:

    “Emmons survived the loyalty test and a second one a few months later. She resigned in August 1999, two months before Palin was voted in for a second mayoral term.”
    http://www.adn.com/politics/story/515512.html

  161. Mark Says:

    Please, please, PLEASE consider removing the post of the list of books by Andrew Aucoin, or at the VERY LEAST edit it so that it has a disclaimer from you at the beginning in bold that subsequent posts to this thread have proven that it is not an accurate list. Other sites are linking to that post and taking it as gospel. As others have pointed out, it is obviously inaccurate (some of those books hadn’t even been published yet) and once this gets out, people will start suspecting the whole incident of Palin inquiring about doing this will be inaccurate too, by association. Librarians and anyone else who cares about freedom of speech, I am sure this is the LAST thing you want to have happen, having the general question about Palin’s actions here rejected out of hand without any serious inquiry. I have seen this happen too many times before

    Please please PLEASE take just a moment of your time, Jessamyn, and add an editorial comment/disclaimer to the top of that post saying that it is quite certain this is NOT the list of books that Palin wanted banned. And please do it QUICKLY, before it’s too late. Thanks.

  162. Eternal Vigilance » Blog Archive » Palin’s attempt to ban books Says:

    [...] perspective as a both a woman and a writer. Today I came across several postings, including one on Librarian.net, discussing how the Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin attempted to have several books banned from [...]

  163. jktoooo Says:

    This is absolutely ridiculous that you Leftards are even having this discussion.

    “Sarah — She’ll ban all our books!”

    This is absolutely ridiculous.

    While I agree…..banning ideas, stifling voices and not allowing for healthy discussion is not good, these allegations that Sarah Palin will ban your books is absolutely ridiculous.

    1. While she may have asked in 1996 the Wasilla Librarian a rhetorical question about banning, censoring and/or removing (you choose your word) books, in actuality, BANNING OF BOOKS NEVER HAPPENED IN WASILLA AS A RESULT OF SARAH PALIN.

    2. The Banning, censoring and/or removing of books in the United States and in Libraries is nothing new…..it happens all the time.
    http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html

    3. I can find proof, for example, that Leftards alter/write books IN OUR SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, to “educate” our children on their policies (ESPECIALLY EXAMPLES OF BOOKS ABOUT ISLAM and the “multicultural” wonders of having Islam in our country —which by the way, Islam is NOT a religion to celebrate and embrace in our country).

    4. Librarians themselves censor, ban, remove books all the time…..and quite often based on their OWN personal beliefs and convictions.

    But when one rhetorical question is brought up by Sarah Palin…..good god, she’s a Nazi!

    Geez, the only serious censoring/stifling of voices that will be brought about in TRUE NAZI FASHION/MANNER will be done by Leftards — namely Obama, Reid and Pelosi — THAT IS THE TRUE DANGER.

    If we were to believe what Leftists have been saying for 7 years, we would believe that we are the New Nazi Nation and Bush the New Hitler —-which by the way HASN’T HAPPENED.

    These leftards are so friggin brain dead!

  164. MV Says:

    Nico Moon -

    Thank you for the link and additional input. From that article:

    “The stories are all suggestive, but facts are hard to come by.”

    “Palin didn’t mention specific books … “

    “Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association’s Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

    “She (the librarian) resigned in August 1999 …” – NOT fired, resigned! … nearly 3 years after the initial issue.

    What are the liberals so afraid of that they will twist and contort the truth so much to tarnish Gov. Palin’s image?

  165. Plain *Hearts* Censorship « Dolly Speaks Says:

    [...] Plain *Hearts* Censorship http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/#comment-119807 [...]

  166. I’ve Said Too Much » links for 2008-09-04 Says:

    [...] librarian.net » Blog Archive » Sarah Palin, VP nominee "[Former Wasilla mayor] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving “full support” to the mayor." (tags: america politics sarahpalin libraries liberty) [...]

  167. Jill Says:

    MV, as someone who is currently seeking a library position, I don’t find it that suprising that the Wasilla librarian stayed at her job for three years. It may have taken her that long to find a new job. Ms. Emmons’ position was threatened not just once, but twice, in October 1996 and January 1997. I don’t think I would want to stay in a job where I had been threatened with being fired twice within 4 months. As part of the condition of keeping her job, she was told that she could not speak to press without the mayor’s permission, and the impression that I have (which I admit is not a proven fact) is that she was required to sign something to that effect. This may be why we have not heard from Ms. Emmons (whose name is now Mary Ellen Baker, if I’m not mistaken.) So we may never know which books were in question, or even if Ms. Palin had specific books in mind. This is all information that came from the Anchorage Daily News in a Nexis search for “sarah palin” and librarian.

    However, I will leave you with another item that I found in my search. This is a letter to the editor that Ms. Palin wrote in support of the idea that parents should have access to the borrowing records of juvenile library card holders. Notice the inflammatory positioning of “my toddler’s ‘privacy rights’”, when most libraries have a juvenile card for kids of, what, 9, probably?

    We may never get the whole story of the Wasilla library, but I think this is pretty indicative of Ms. Palin’s attitudes toward libraries and librarians.

    Lyda Green raises voice of reason in children’s rights issue
    The nonsensical and infuriating interpretation of law that decided my toddler’s “privacy rights” trump my rights and responsibilities as her parent makes it seem government purposefully makes it tough on families striving to raise happy, healthy, productive kids. Child-rearing is challenging enough without politicians opposing parents’ rights to know our kids’ business in today’s fast-moving world.

    Thankfully, Sen. Lyda Green’s SB 269 lets inquiring parents know what public library materials kids have on hold, are overdue or may even be (heaven forbid!) of parental concern. As a mother of four and a former mayor, I support SB 269′s allowance for public and school libraries’ consistent policies and giving municipalities liberty to address the issue.

    Perplexing SB 269 opposition, attributed to a public librarian, was based on fear that parents may wield an “iron glove” if given freedom to know their kids’ business.

    A twist on that opposition that hopefully won’t give politicians any ideas is the perspective discussed by my son and his spring-fever afflicted buddies: “Dude, if government can keep library records secret from parents, then shouldn’t our report cards be ‘private matters,’ too, and government shouldn’t mail ‘em home because my folks may put on iron gloves when they read mine?”
    Shouldn’t happen with Lyda in the Senate protecting families and freedom by letting us do the job responsibly that we signed up for when we became parents, dude.

    – Sarah Palin, former mayor

  168. MV Says:

    Thank you for your post Jill. Though I’m not sure what your point is. Is it that librarians should not be accountable to their communities’ interests, as represented through elected leaders? Is it that parents should not be allowed access to their minor-child’s library records?

  169. Todd Says:

    Response to Micheal

    If someone is impaired or disabled, Yes they need help. If an act of god destroys what they work for then yes they need help. It is not ouR job to continue to help people that will not help them self. Smart , smart has nothing to do with it Bill Gates and Larry Elison (founder of orcale) the two richest men in the country are collegE drop outs. They both say tht they surrounded them selfs with people smarter than them. It has nothing to do with smart. I know people in construction that make 80,000 a year roofing houses, and no they don’t own the company.

    The point is that there is a way, no matter what your abilities to achieve. Some are great at sports, some look like models, some are very smart, some are average house wifes like Palin. Get up and work for your dreams dont let life pass you by, you only get one chance at this life. The point is if you are capable then you can achieve in this country and nothing has changed. Liberals just think it has. The people that want to moan about, I dont have this or that, but are cable of doing something about it and expect me to, obviously missed the american dream and thats their own fault. Some of the dubest people in the world have achieved. Look at Jimmy Carter, I live not far from his home and he is dumb. Ask anyone? You dont beleive me after this election you will find him every Sunday drinking coffee and talking to people at the same country store in Plains GA as he has for decades. I will take you and you can see what a not very smart man with amibition can acomplish. If you wake up in this country in the morning, have two arms, two legs, can hear, and see then you have it better than the rest of the world.

    In addition Palins experence is far more than OBAMA has.

    I CHALLANGE ANY ONE TO NAME THREE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT OBAMA HAS ACOMPLISHED IN HIS LIFE THAT QULIFYS HIM TO BE PRESIDENT. GO ON NAME THEM!!!!!

  170. Malcolm K London Says:

    My dad thinks the list of books is a fake. We cannot understand why a wholesome Mid-West, Middle American Wyoming ranching book like ‘My Friend Flicka’ should be included. ‘Clockwork Orange’, yes, after all, Kubrick banned his own film of the book but ‘Flicka’, surely not?

  171. Robert Says:

    In the future she needs to be careful about her questions. They reveal what is really on her mind! The list fake or not does not matter!

  172. Tadhg Says:

    I admit this is my first visit to this site, but I thought this was “librarian.net” not some political blog. I would hope that this is not the usual commentary fare?

  173. Jill Says:

    MV, I think that others here have addressed your issue with a librarian being responsible to their community far more eleoquently than I could. One person complaining to their mayor about some book they found objectionable does not mean that the community finds it objectionable.

    As for parents not having access to their children’s borrowing records, yes, I believe that children are entitled to their privacy, as does the Alaska Library Association: “However, the ethical responsibilities of library staff, as well as statutes, protect the privacy of library users. Confidentiality extends to the information sought or received and materials consulted, borrowed, or acquired and includes database search records, interlibrary loan records, and other personally identifiable uses of library materials, facilities, or services. The library community recognizes that children and youth have the same rights to privacy as adults.”

    Ms. Palin’s letter to the editor speaks to the fact that she does not believe in freedom of information. It’s just a different kind of censorship, knowing that you don’t have any privacy.

  174. TK Says:

    Jessamyn, you said: If the comment were to be deleted then people don’t know what it said, what it looked like, and what the big deal was. It would also leave all the other comments referring to it hanging. If the comment remains, people can look at it, look at the surrounding comments and make their own estimation of how likely it looks to be true (i.e not very, as many commenters here have said).
    I hear you, but people will take posts to your blog and post them elsewhere, regardless of veracity or context. At the risk of being considered a “censor”, I would respectfully ask that you at least close this thread to further posts. It does not appear to be getting any better, and I fear will only become more virulent and contentious.

  175. AB Says:

    Jill
    The library community recognizes that children and youth have the same rights to privacy as adults.
    Do you also agree then, that children should be able to surf the internet at will, and visit any sites they choose? As a parent, I must respectfully disagree that my child has the same right to privacy that an adult has. My child is not an adult. I do not snoop, and I do trust my child, but my child is a child.

  176. David G. Hartwell Says:

    I thought I’d better point out that the spurious list of books to be banned circulating has a number of titles first published after 1996 (Harry Potter?)

    DGH

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  178. MV Says:

    Jill – thanks again for your post.

    I think, then, that we agree on the accountability issue. I agree that the voice of one should not override the will of the larger community (hence the challenge process for library materials). The other end of that spectrum is the librarian make decisions regardless of the larger opinion of the community. I do think it is both the right and responsibility of elected officials to follow up on constituent requests, which appears to be at least the stated motive of (then) Gov. Palin here. Once the challenge process was explained, it appears no further action was taken to remove any books or materials. In other words, the process worked.

    I will respectfully disagree with you on the child issue. Until my child reaches the age of majority, I am responsible for them and their actions. It is also my duty and right as a parent to raise my child the way I believe, and to control and monitor access to any aspect of life that I find objectionable per MY values, or those shared with my spouse. I believe this is a fundamental right of a parent. Some parents will choose to exercise this right through close supervision; others will choose to let the child do what the child may. Either represents the free exercise of this parental right.

    Thank you for your reasoned and reasonable discourse.

  179. kppr Says:

    Just to clarify some things that are being described as lies, implying intentional smears. It was reported Palin was a Buchanan supporter because Buchanan said she was. It was reported she was a member of the Alaska Independence Party because the Party said she was, later retracted. There is a difference between reporting information that turns out to be untrue, but was from a credible source, and making up lies. Whether she wanted to ban books or not, there seems to be a pattern of her wanting to fire people who disagree with her. That’s my opinion, not a fact.

  180. Jill Says:

    AB, you can keep your eye on your kid’s internet usage while he or she is at home, but can you do that when he or she is at the library? Some libraries use WebSense or other software to block content and others don’t, and that’s all based on the same judgement of “community standards” that’s being discussed here. I think the point is, though, that the librarian is more in touch with what the users expect and need out of their library than the mayor is. If the librarian thinks they need to block X-rated content, that’s one thing. If a politician thinks it needs to be blocked and threatens a librarian with being fired because of it, that’s a problem.

  181. kruthy Says:

    “I try to keep “who to vote for” politics pretty well off of this blog and prefer to discuss politics in general and better and worse strategies for promoting libraries in whatever political climate we happen to be in…”

    And IMO the blog is the better for it.

    The “note” about this phony and misleading list should be both more prominent (atop post, not at the bottom) and worded more strongly.

  182. mal Says:

    I try to keep “who to vote for” politics pretty well off of this blog and prefer to discuss politics in general and better and worse strategies for promoting libraries in whatever political climate we happen to be in.
    I don’t believe that was the case this time. If you want to promote this type of discussion, I would suggest you change the name of the blog to politicalibrarian.net (or maybe angrylibrarians.net). This kind of vitriol is beneath your profession, and does not appear to reflect an educated poster-ship very well.

  183. AB Says:

    Jill,
    My child is 12, so is not typically at the library without my spouse or I in tow. Neither of us hang over shoulders, but it would be our perogative so to do. Although I hope that librarians are experts in their field, their field is not child rearing. I do not need, nor expect, them to police (or not) my child, nor does it take a village to rear my child. My spouse and I are attempting to do that to the best of our abilities.

  184. ken happel Says:

    I am truly disappointed that the preponderance of comment is unable to correctly restate the content of the cited Time article, the blog comment, any of the supporting documents or seems to have done any research using the libraries they serve.

    (1) The Time article cites John Stein, the mayoral candidate that she defeated, as saying that she continued to introduce her religious beliefs into her mayoral position implying that the following sentence about banning books was part of this.

    Reading the article, however, Stein was talking about Palin’s pro-life stand, not banning books. The Frontiersman’s Managing Editor also believed that Palin’s insertion of her pro-life opinion was inappropriate. The town’s voters obviously did not.

    “Chas St. George, John Stein’s predecessor as mayor, worked on Stein’s campaign at the time and, while he says he has no reason to dispute Stein’s recollection of events, he doesn’t remember Palin’s conduct being beyond the pale. ‘Our tax coffers were starting to grow,’ he says. ‘John was for expanding services, and Sarah wasn’t. That’s what the race was about.’”

    “St. George, however, points out that Palin couldn’t have seen everything through an Evangelical lens. She did, he says, notably resist calls to restrict operating hours for the bars in town. And even if faith did play an unusually large role in her decision-making as mayor, it may have only reflected the continued rise of Evangelicalism in the valley, a growth that continues to this day … The town has a very large and conservative Christian community, “’We like to call this the Bible Belt of Alaska,’ says Cheryl Metiva, head of the local chamber of commerce. Churches proliferate in Wasilla today…” (Time Magazine, Sept 2, 2008)

    (2) The Time writer then continues, “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them.”

    The interesting thing is that the Time correspondent does not say that her action was based on her religious beliefs, but on the desires of her constituents. Isn’t that what our representatives in this republic are supposed to do? Further, she banned no books.

    “Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association’s Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.” (Anchorage Daily News, 9/4/08)

    She never asked for any specific books to be banned in public forums where she could have made political hay if she wanted to. “When the matter came up for the second time in October 1996, during a City Council meeting, Anne Kilkenny, a Wasilla housewife who often attends council meetings, was there. Like many Alaskans, Kilkenny calls the governor by her first name. ‘Sarah said to Mary Ellen, ‘What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?’ Kilkenny said. ‘I was shocked. Mary Ellen sat up straight and said something along the line of, ‘The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size, and I would absolutely resist all efforts to ban books.’ Palin didn’t mention specific books at that meeting, Kilkenny said.” (Anchorage Daily News, 9/4/08)

    (3) There is no evidence of any kind that the list of books has anything, whatsoever, to do with Palin.

    (4) While the article says “reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving ‘full support’ to the mayor.”, the librarian was neither threatened with being fired over the banning question issue nor fired period. She was put on notice as were other public officials that Palin questioned with respect to support of her programs. You will note that Mary Ellen Baker (Emmons was her maiden name) was publicly against Palin’s candidacy during the preceding campaign.

    “Four days before the exchange at the City Council, Emmons got a letter from Palin asking for her resignation. Similar letters went to police chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton and finance director Duane Dvorak. John Cooper, a fifth director, resigned after Palin eliminated his job overseeing the city museum. Palin told the Daily News back then the letters were just a test of loyalty as she took on the mayor’s job, which she’d won from three-term mayor John Stein in a hard-fought election. Stein had hired many of the department heads. Both Emmons and Stambaugh had publicly supported him against Palin.” (Anchorage Daily News, 9/4/08)

    This is what every manager reorganizing and turning around a sick company does. Clean sweep and only keep those that work to help.

    (5) She was not fired in 1996 when all this happened and retired from the position to immediately take another job almost four years later in 1999.

    “Mary Ellen Baker, who recently resigned as director at the Wasilla Public Library, joined the staff at the Fairbanks North Star Borough Public Library as Public Services Manager. Mary Ellen replaced Jack Rasmussen who took a partial retirement and continues to work as a part-time reference librarian.” (Pacific Northwest Library Association, PNLA Quarterly Spring 2000)

    I do not believe in censorship. I do believe in the right of people in a specific community to determine the function and content of their public services. Even, when, I don’t agree. If my conversation with a community is unable to carry the day, then it is my logic and reasoning that has failed and not the community. People have a right to live in an environment of their choice, and the hatred, disinformation, outright lies and made up facts quoted here in the name of librarians is sad. It would be even more sad if they are right about the final issue of Ms. Palin’s suitability as vice-president.

  185. TK Says:

    Ken Happel,

    Hear, hear!

  186. Cecilia Yates Says:

    As a Media Specialist I am horrified at the very possibility that Ms. Palin even asked “how she could go about having specific books banned”. That is censorship. That is simply wrong. People’s jobs should not be in jeopardy simply because they do not share the same political beliefs. This is scary. I don’t think this is what we want in our top officials. I say “Thanks, but no Thanks” to Palin. Stay in Alaska and secede from our country. With leaders like Palin, we don’t need them as part of the United States.

  187. ken happel Says:

    Dear Cecilia Yates,
    She didn’t ask that. The very least you can do is quote her correctly. The issue was not the banning of books, the issue was the use and content of a publicly funded library by its constituancy. Who are paying for its existance.

    Her job was NOT threatened because of her political beliefs.

    BTW, your last sentance is almost exactly what the Nazis said to every who disagreed with them. How funny that a seeming defender of the public right to freedom of opinion is themselve a bigot.

  188. Bob Bowser Says:

    I can not verify the following information, but it seems genuine and was provided by a resident of Wasilla, Ann. There is nothing in this description that seems off. I am sure it could be tracked won to Ann, as needed.

    ABOUT SARAH PALIN

    I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.

    She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because she is a “babe”.

    It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.

    She is “pro-life”. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.

    She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

    She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

    Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
    so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.

    Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

    She’s smart.

    Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

    During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
    gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.

    Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
    City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
    benefited residents.

    The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
    multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyer involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
    would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

    While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.

    These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

    As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

    In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs.

    She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.

    While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
    rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

    Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).

    As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
    for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.

    She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
    became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

    Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.

    When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
    structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
    undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).

    As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
    nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

    As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance–but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.

    She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.

    Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

    As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.

    Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.

    McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President.

    There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she.

    However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.

    CLAIM VS FACT
    *”Hockey mom”: true for a few years
    *”PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
    *”NRA supporter”: absolutely true
    *social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
    *pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
    *”Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
    *”Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
    supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
    *political maverick: not at all
    *gutsy: absolutely!
    *open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
    *has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
    *”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
    *fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
    *pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
    *pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
    *pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.
    *pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

    WHY AM I WRITING THIS?

    First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne, last name redacted, Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.

    Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.

    Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.

    Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship.

    Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

    CAVEATS
    I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.

    You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90′s.

  189. Bob Bowser Says:

    You can find here full name – Anne Kilkenny and her letter here as well –

    http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-anne-kilkenny/741/

    I did verify that there is an Anne Kilkenny living in Wasilla, AK. Of course, this is still just one person’s opionion, but it seems well considered and insightful.

    The budget story has been confirmed widely.

  190. TK Says:

    Bob Bowser,
    You say, I can not verify the following information, but it seems genuine…
    If you can’t verify it, then don’t post it.

  191. TK Says:

    I did verify that there is an Anne Kilkenny living in Wasilla, AK.
    Yes, but did she write this? Many “actual” people are quoted as having said things everyday (check Snopes.com), but they didn’t actually say it.

  192. ken happel Says:

    Bob,

    Thanks for posting Anna’s recollections.

    Of the five thousand some odd inhabitants of the town, a firm majority, who also experienced all these events firsthand, do not agree. Anna has a clearly evident point of view. She obviously vehemently disagrees with those in her community that wish a different policy. As a representative of those who voted for her, Palin was doing what she was elected to do.

    You will also notice that, while the political position of saving Baker, was placed on the banning of books, the fact is that she was actually not fired as others were, who received resignation notices at the same time and for the same reasons (having nothing to do with censorship).

    The fact that Anne believes that the firing motivation was the banning of books is her opinion and is otherwise unsubstantiated. I’ll bet the real issue was the Evangelical community’s desires to not have public resources cripple their efforts to raise children according to their beliefs. Anne really disagrees with the fundamental beliefs of a portion of her community.

    The fact is that Baker was not fired the first time or the second. The fact that the community reelected her, given all the protest, means they were satisfied with Palin’s actions. That’s the way it works.

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  194. Josh Millard Says:

    Good lord did this thread take off. Greetings, people of the internet!

  195. Todd Says:

    STILL NO ONE CAN COME UP WITH THREE THINGS THAT QULIFY OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!

  196. Jill Says:

    AB & MV, I do understand your concern for your children, but I think that you are viewing this only through the lens of a parent. You have a duty to your children; a librarian has a duty to possibly hundreds of children. It sounds like you are both very committed parents who take your job as parents seriously, but there are children out there who have problems that might be able to be solved through the materials at the library. It’s an extreme example, but a child who has been abused may be able to find solace or help from a library book—one that they might not necessarily want their parents to see they had checked out. This is the reason that the Alaska Library Association and the American Library Association treat children’s privacy the same as adults. You want to protect your children from material that might contain sex or profanity or violence, and that’s understandable. But there are parents out there who want to keep information away from their children that is vital. You view it as interference with your parenting, but a librarian views it as protecting your child (and everyone else’s) from a violation of their rights.

    We may be bound to disagree on this. I don’t have children, so I can’t claim to view it from your point of view. But when you compare the risk that your child might see something that they aren’t old enough to see, to the risk that another child might want to check out a book about abuse and not check it out because they know that their mom will find out about it…

    I wish I could think of some other examples, because I feel like that one is a little far-fetched. But can’t you imagine some instance in which your kid might not feel comfortable talking to you about something? Like when they’re a little bit older and they want to know about sex, wouldn’t it be better if they got a book from the library that you didn’t know about, rather than relying on their friends or something? Yeah, you’d obviously prefer for them to talk to you, but what if they just won’t?

    So, there are two examples. I’m certain there are more. But it’s important to remember that not all parents are good parents, and librarians are trying to look out for all kids, not just yours.

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  198. Jill Says:

    And still Todd can’t type the word qualify!!! Let’s try to stay on topic, Todd. Jessamyn posted this because it’s about censorship, a topic that interests librarians very much. She didn’t tell anyone not to vote for McCain. She brought up something about Palin that librarians would be interested in discussing.

    Also, Ken, there are articles in the Anchorage Daily News from 1996 and 1997 that do recount Ms. Emmons being fired and then being reinstated. It’s a tangled narrative, because the Anchorage paper was probably not overly concerned with what happened to a Wasilla librarian, but I believe that in the second instance, in January 1997 that Ms. Emmons was terminated, instead of just being asked for a resignation. Ever hear of Godwin’s Law? Once you compare someone to a Nazi, no one can take you seriously.

  199. Steven Says:

    More information:
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/election2008/story/51821.html

  200. slamkitty Says:

    Smith Says:

    September 3rd, 2008 at 2:47
    “I don’t think Time or the NYT are credible sources to begin with.”

    How pathetic.

  201. Patricia_g Says:

    It would be helpful if those of you piling on Governor Palin for supposedly wanting to ban books would remember this information is coming from a fired employee with a grudge. Because of confidentiality rules, Gov Palin can’t defend herself against someone who for all YOU know was fired for just cause and is now lying in order to get vengeance.

    Think about it before you hop on the bandwagon.

  202. Patricia_g Says:

    “Bob Bowser Says:
    September 5th, 2008 at 4:39

    I can not verify the following information, but it seems genuine and was provided by a resident of Wasilla, Ann. There is nothing in this description that seems off. I am sure it could be tracked won to Ann, as needed. ”

    In other words, you are trafficking gossip that supports your dislike for Governor Palin so you choose to believe it.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.

  203. cinnamonape Says:

    I think that a better source for researching what she might have found “offensive” would be from the sermons of her Minister (Ed Kalnin) at the Wasilla Church of God. It’s interesting that these were available on his website until right after Palin’s nomination…then they were taken down. But maybe someone got them?

  204. Moreus Says:

    Can someone verify that the list of a gazillion books that Sarah Palin purpordedly banned is factual. It seems impossible that most of the books listed could ever possibly be even a suggestion to ban…..If it is a proven fact, then it is beyond comprehension that she could possibly be considered for “any” important position in local government, let alone the #2 spot in the nation!

  205. Deann Says:

    Jessamyn,
    Your disclaimer at the top of this thread is badly worded. We know that the list is not accurate yet you dance around the truth with your statement, saving the disclaimer itself for last. You have done little more than provide a handy link to the false list. For shame.

  206. Michelle Malkin » The bogus Sarah Palin Banned Books List Says:

    [...] person who first spread the Palin smear is identified as “Andrew Aucoin,” a commenter on the blog of librarian Jessamyn West. West has done the right thing in keeping the [...]

  207. Gary Says:

    If it’s true, it’s not surprising but it hardly makes any difference to me. I’m not in the habit of voting for warmongering, right-wing nutjobs anyway (McCain/Palin).

  208. P.D.S. Alert! Palin banning books, before even in print. She has to be stopped, at all costs! « Republican Party of Jefferson County, TN Says:

    [...] there?  Okay.  But, that is just one lone incident on that site.  It’s not?  Gosh!  Where does something like this start?  This is the list of books Palin tried to have banned. As many of you will notice it is a hit [...]

  209. Palin the Book Burner? | The Daily Conservative Says:

    [...] Andrew Aucoin Says: September 3rd, 2008 at 1:29 [...]

  210. Bertha Says:

    Question for you librarians – how often does your city mayor, or anyone in an elected or appointed office, come in and have a hypothetical/rhetorical conversation about banning books?

    Question for MV – you say her dealings with Emmons are “what every manager reorganizing and turning around a sick company does. Clean sweep and only keep those that work to help.” What are your reasons for considering the library a sick company and considering Emmons one who would not work to help?

    By the way, if there were actually voters who had complaints, they would have been quoted in the paper. People who want things banned are eager to be quoted in the paper, or better yet be on the TeeVee. If the mayor wouldn’t give ‘em up, the reporter would have mentioned that. No mention of actual “voters” or a group or whatever means someone’s editor said you can’t inply that our mayor just cooked this up.

  211. megorious | Books & Literature » Books Sarah Palin Tried to Ban Says:

    [...] following is the list of books Alaska Governor Sarah Palin tried to have banned from the public libraries. This woman [...]

  212. Palin Lies Put To Rest: No banned books an no affair | Right Voices Says:

    [...] points out: The person who first spread the Palin smear is identified as “Andrew Aucoin,” a commenter on the blog of librarian Jessamyn West. West has done the right thing in keeping the [...]

  213. The bogus Sarah Palin Banned Books List - Political Wrinkles Says:

    [...] to Hitler. (since been removed) The person who first spread the Palin smear is identified as Andrew Aucoin, a commenter on the blog of librarian Jessamyn West. West has done the right thing in keeping the [...]

  214. John Says:

    My wife is a professional librarian with close to 35 years of experience at all levels, including at
    one time overseeing the operations of dozens of military libraries located in Europe and the
    Middle East. When she retired she took the job of library director in a small town (population
    976) as a way to keep busy and contribute to the community. As you librarians should know,
    community libraries are designed to serve the communities in which they are located. In most
    cases there is a library board made up of local citizens that sets policy. In my wife’s case, the
    board has seven members and she takes direction from them. They in turn are supposed to
    represent the will of the community in matters regarding the library. If for some reason they want
    a book removed from the collection, my wife can protest, she can register her strong opposition
    to censorship, but in the end she has to do what the board tells her to do or else resign.

    It should not have to be said, but the local mayor is elected by the community and is expected to
    carry out their majority wishes to the best of his or her abilities. I can envision a situation where
    the mayor is approached by a constituent with a complaint about a book. They tell the mayor
    they think it ought to be banned from the library. I can imagine the mayor might not be all that
    conversant with the ins and outs of book banning, so he or she might well come to the librarian
    and ask how it might be done. I can picture the librarian being aghast at the idea. I can hear him
    or her telling the mayor it’s a terrible idea, a wrong in fact, to ban book, that he or she is very
    much against it; but I can also picture the librarian, out of a sense of professional responsibility,
    answering the mayor’s question by saying “Such a decision would have to be made by the library
    board. The issue should be presented to them and, if they so direct it, then I’ll remove the book
    from circulation.”

    One comment rightly pointed out that there is a fundamental difference between local
    communities deciding which books they want in their libraries and the central government
    mandating that certain book will or will not be available anywhere in the country. There is no
    “right” for any book to be on the shelves of every library in the United States. Indeed, given the
    ubiquity and success of inter-library loan programs, there is no need for any library to necessarily
    have on its shelf and given book.

    With regards to the Palin case, from all I’ve read it’s impossible to tell what actually went on.
    The librarian in question is not talking. It appears the previous mayor was voted out of office
    because a majority of the community was displeased with his performance. I can well imagine he
    had appointed people to various positions on the basis of their sharing his views and their
    willingness to carry out his policies, policies that the majority of the community had come to
    reject. It is not unreasonable, therefore, for a new mayor to replace some of those people with
    others that reflect the current majority view. It seems that more than the librarian was asked to
    resign. We certainly know what the local press is alleging happened, but anyone who reads a
    local paper knows how stories can be influenced by the politics of the publisher or advertisers. Is
    what was written accurate? I have no idea. Nor does anyone commenting here.

    I must say it’s disheartening reading through the comments here. I would have thought librarians
    to be more judicious and restrained in the expression of their opinions, more inclined to get the
    facts before making or accepting accusations.

  215. Sloan Says:

    On September 5th, 2008 at 5:01 EastAnon said:

    “So you actually support the banning of books, if done through the proper channels?”

    A typical hyperbolic counterattack, completely unsupported by my original comment. Nice try, though.

    “Palin is acting like a dictator in Wasilla. She has spread lies, tried to strongarm several people, and yet you defend her. Why is that? Why would you want a proven liar in the Whitehouse??”

    Because I’ve already seen how almost everything negative that has been said about Sarah Palin, here and elsewhere, is utter B.S. That’s why.

  216. Emma Says:

    I imagine somewhere in these 200+ comments, someone has already pointed out that the Harry Potter books couldn’t possibly have been on Palin’s banned books wish list in 1996, which of course calls the whole list in to question.

    I don’t really doubt that Palin wanted to ban books, but why make up a list that’s so easily proven false? It certainly doesn’t do us Democrats any good.

  217. jessamyn Says:

    I’m going to close comments for this post. It took on a life of its own which I’m a little embarassed to admit I wasn’t really expecting. I don’t want to create yet another comments thread with people yelling at each other about McCain/Obama talking points. This blog is primarily for library and librarian issues and I thought the Time Magazine article had interesting commentary on one such issue. After it’s no longer my birthday weekend, I’ll try to post something approximating a wrap-up. Have a pleasant weekend everyone.

  218. Fighting Smears: List of Library Books Sarah Palin Banned | Bucks Right Says:

    [...] on the Boston Herald’s web site. Malkin identifies the originator of the bogus smear as “Andrew Aucoin”, who posted the list on a librarian’s blog. The blog owner correctly identifies this claim as [...]

  219. Dinocrat » Blog Archive » Palin’s attempt to ban unpublished books Says:

    [...] several websites, including an official Obama campaign website, produced identical lists of the 90 books that Mayor [...]

  220. Another day, another nasty Palin smear debunked « HillBuzz Says:

    [...] person who first spread the Palin smear is identified as “Andrew Aucoin,” a commenter on the blog of librarian Jessamyn West. West has done the right thing in keeping the [...]

  221. HogwartsProfessor.com » Blog Archive » Harry Potter Banned in Wasilla, AK?! Says:

    [...] this rumor up, you can read those people who posted stories about Gov. Palin having submitted a very long list of books to the librarian as a loyalty test here and here.) Mayor-elect Palin took office in 1996. Those of [...]

  222. A quick link hit « Not a Hedgehog Says:

    [...] needs to help identify her over the weekend as a book burning fundamentalist with a secessionist husband, a wacky minister of her own and an appetite for pork barrelling. They [...]

  223. Sarah Palin and the Case of the Resigning Librarian « Mighty Red Pen Says:

    [...] As with many of the stories emerging about Palin, the details of the Case of the Resigning Librarian remain a little murky. For example, exactly which books Palin was hoping to have removed isn’t clear yet. Librarians Against Palin is tracking this issue, and you can also follow this at Library Journal and librarian.net.   [...]

  224. Shhhh be quiet no more! « icouldbetheveep Says:

    [...] http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/ [...]

  225. . Says:

    [...] from http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/#comment-119807 (pops) *citation needed This is the list of books Palin tried to have banned. As many of you will [...]

  226. Red Meat for Moderates | Back Alley Media Says:

    [...] ’bout the list of books Palin tried to ban when she was mayor of Wasilla!  Plus, she tried to have the librarian fired [...]

  227. Listing of books Sarah Palin has tried to get banned « NoTitleNeeded Says:

    [...] Listing of books Sarah Palin has tried to get banned Jump to Comments Original link here (from librarian.net) [...]

  228. Sarah Palin and the banned books « The Ongoing War Against Reason Says:

    [...] List of the Books in question from Librarian.net. [...]

  229. » Sarah Palin, VP nominee Says:

    [...] can read the rest of this blog post by going to the original source, here [...]

  230. Never Was A Palin “Book Ban” « Quipster Says:

    [...] ban at the Wasilla Public Library by Sarah Palin.  COMPLETE RUBBISH.  Blogger Andrew Aucoin on Librarian.net irresponsibly posted a list of banned books in 1996, but some were not even published until [...]

  231. THE DRIVE BYS’ ONSLAUGHT CONTINUES « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger Says:

    [...] 62 percent, this one began with a comment from a moonbat on a blog.  Someone named Andrew Aucoin did a cut-and-paste job of the list linked to previously without one shred of evidence. The blogger is a librarian herself, Jessamyn [...]

  232. We are officially in the Twilight Zone « scribblingwoman2 Says:

    [...] Update: Okay, immediately after I posted this, I read further that there is some controversy about the list, and if there even is a list. Here is a funny list, and here is an indication that there may have been no actual list, and here is the definitive word, from librarians. [...]

  233. Comment on Sarah Palin, VP nominee by THE DRIVE BYS’ ONSLAUGHT … Says:

    [...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]

  234. The Folding Fool » Blog Archive » Comment on Sarah Palin, VP nominee by THE DRIVE BYS’ ONSLAUGHT … Says:

    [...] Talk to the author know. [...]

  235. Tennesseefree.com » Lies About Sarah Palin Debunked Says:

    [...] list running around the internet, source, is actually a list of books that have been banned many times, all across America. It is a fraud. [...]

  236. The Biblio File » Sarah Palin Tried To Ban Library Books Says:

    [...] Jessamyn at Librarian.net points to this article from Time Magazine about Sarah Palin. Turns out, she tried to use her power as mayor to have books banned from the library: Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. “She asked the library how she could go about banning books,” he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. “The librarian was aghast.” That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn’t be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving “full support” to the mayor. [...]

  237. Palin, libraries, false lists, real questions « Ned Raggett Ponders It All Says:

    [...] fact, one widely circulated, very long list (which appears, among other places, on Librarian.net’s comment string and has been disavowed by the website’s owner) is obviously false because it includes four [...]

  238. We have a list! : Librarians for Palin Says:

    [...] blogosphere for a few days now.  This list was reported on several librarian’s blogs such as librarian.net and even the website of Fly Fishing [...]

  239. Palin update « Impromptu Librarian Says:

    [...] to gather speed.  Interestingly, one of the pieces that has gotten attention is a comment in Jessamyn’s blog – that she refutes in the piece – that is purportedly a list of the books Palin has tried to ban.  [...]

  240. » Short Story: “Palin Comparison” » The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla’s Personal Blog Says:

    [...] Since when is banning books part of our platform? [I think the book-banning accusations are wrong; see here for details. -- [...]

  241. Election 08 - Page 2 - voogru.com - Online Gaming Community Says:

    [...] Re: Election 08 yeah, that "list" was what i was getting at. the incident in question was from when Palin first took office, in 1996, before any of the harry potter books were written. she didn’t attempt to ban books, but she *did* ask if the librarian would be willing to censor books in the library should she ever be asked to. pulling books from the public library isn’t nearly the same as banning, and since no specific books were ever mentioned, there’s no way to be sure exactly what she had in mind for the future. she did, however, try to get the librarian fired, which i absolutely do not agree with. the article that started all this was from the anchorage daily news Palin pressured Wasilla librarian: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com your "list" of banned books has been all over the internet for years. its ties to palin were debunked literally hours after the first claim was made by a commenter on this blog: librarian.net Blog Archive Sarah Palin, VP nominee [...]

  242. McCain’s Choice: A Portrait of Palin « vegan fish tacos Says:

    [...] of inappropriate language. [Note: there is some speculation as to which books were on that list here I cannot vouch for the veracity of the list, so take it at face value.]. After Baker refused to go [...]

  243. Flagrantly false emails & the election « Quod Ero Spero Says:

    [...] her local library in Wasilla, Alaska. I first read about that issue on Boing Boing, which linked to here, quoting an article in Time. The story is now covered in, at this moment, over two hundred other [...]

  244. Sarah Palin Banned Books List - The Urban Legend : BigMouthFrog Says:

    [...] Jessamyn West, who blogs at librarian.net, writes, “Usually I’m just happy to see libraries even mentioned in national level [...]

  245. Palin Protest Power, part 2 « RallyGrrrl Says:

    [...] doesn’t matter that Sarah Palin didn’t successfully ban the book, My Daddy’s Roommate, from local library shelves. It doesn’t matter how many books she [...]

  246. List of books that Sarah Palin tried to ban | The Coyote Report Says:

    [...] banned. As many of you will notice it is a hit parade for book burners. This list was found at: http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/#comment-119807 We do not have any other documentation that can support its [...]

  247. Wasilla Resident gives honest opinion of Sarah Palin - Page 3 - Conservative Republican Discussion Forums Says:

    [...] them from his website immediately. Sources: [1] Main investigative work by Michelle Malkin[2] Librarian.Net[3] Librarian.Net Poster Jessamyn West[4] Pacific Northwest Library Association Resignation [...]

  248. List of books that Sarah Palin tried to have banned | The Coyote Report Says:

    [...] banned. As many of you will notice it is a hit parade for book burners. This list was found at: http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/#comment-119807 We do not have any other documentation that can support its [...]

  249. Anyone else voting for McCain but not Palin? - Page 3 - Conservative Republican Discussion Forums Says:

    [...] them from his website immediately. Sources: [1] Main investigative work by Michelle Malkin[2] Librarian.Net[3] Librarian.Net Poster Jessamyn West[4] Pacific Northwest Library Association Resignation [...]

  250. Comment on Sarah Palin , Vp Nominee By Palin -Tology - Nearly 200 … Says:

    [...] spoken out against her. She favors censoring library books (Alert your local librarian!) Here’s the complete list of books she allegedly tried to have banned (THIS LIST NEEDS TO BE CHECKED FOR ANOTHER SOURCE): Palin is [...][Continue Reading] [...]

  251. Department of Book Reports: The Constitution of the United States - John Mccain | John McCain- Sharpy News Says:

    [...] åü courant is busy trying to read all the books Sarah Palin tried to ban, in anticipation of Banned Book [...]

  252. My Holy Grail « Brooklyn Exile Says:

    [...] The books Palin tried to have banned. [...]