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		<title>google book search, what about govdocs?</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1655/google-book-search-what-about-govdocs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things I really enjoyed about the Internet Archive Open Library project was the software they used to attempting to determine whether works they were scanning were or were not under copyright. It was an elaborate set of questions and answers with access to some copyright databases. In contrast, unless I&#8217;m mistaken, Google [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I really enjoyed about the Internet Archive <a href="http://www.openlibrary.org/">Open Library</a> project was the software they used to attempting to determine whether works they were scanning were or were not under copyright. It was an elaborate set of questions and answers with access to some copyright databases. In contrast, unless I&#8217;m mistaken, Google Books just draws a line at 1923 and assumes everything after that date is in copyright. This includes government information which as you know is made with tax dollars and generally in the public domain. So <a href="http://prelingerlibrary.blogspot.com/2006/02/google-book-search-treats-government.html">why does Google Book Search treat all post-1923 books as under copyright</a>? Just over-cautious?</p>
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		<title>google book search, info from the source</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1652/google-book-search-info-from-the-source/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[James Jacobs &#8212; the guy from diglet who had been writing to Google to try to get &#8220;find in a library&#8221; added to ALL Google Book Search results &#8212; went to see Daniel Clancy, the Engineering Director for the Google Book Search Project speak at Stanford. While the talk wasn&#8217;t to librarians and wasn&#8217;t really [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Jacobs &#8212; the guy from diglet who had been <a href="http://gort.ucsd.edu/mtdocs/archives/diglet/007148.html">writing to Google</a> to try to get &#8220;<a href="http://vielmetti.typepad.com/superpatron/2006/02/inserting_libra.html">find in a library</a>&#8221; added to ALL Google Book Search results &#8212; went to see <a href="http://gort.ucsd.edu/mtdocs/archives/diglet/007170.html">Daniel Clancy, the Engineering Director for the Google Book Search Project</a> speak at Stanford. While the talk wasn&#8217;t to librarians and wasn&#8217;t really about the social implications of the book search, James did learn a few things.<br />
<blockquote>- Clancy mentioned that Google was NOT going for archival quality (indeed COULD not) in their scans and were ok with skipped pages, missing content and less than perfect OCR &#8212; he mentioned that the OCR process AVERAGED one word error per page of every book scanned<br /> &#8211; about 70% of the book project use was coming from India.<br />- 92% of the world&#8217;s books are not generating revenues for copyright holders or publishers</p></blockquote>
<p> If Googl Book Search really interests you, you might also like to read <a href="http://www.plagiary.org/Google-Library-Project.pdf">The Google Library Project: Both Sides of the Story</a> [pdf, today's <a href="http://www.tk421.net/librarylink/">library link o' the day</a>] which discusses some of the misinformation and lawsuits surrounding the Google Library porject and comes down on the side of Google&#8217;s fair use position.</p>
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		<title>Google Book Search amplifies our efforts</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1636/google-book-search-amplifies-our-efforts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[University of Michigan President defends their relationship with the Google Book Search project (full speech pdf download). Intriguing comments below including Siva and a plug by librarians&#8217; own SuperPatron on another way of harnessing the power of the Google Book Search for libraries. [thanks molly]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University of Michigan President defends <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/002317.php">their relationship with the Google Book Search</a> project (<a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/MSC_AAP_Google_address.pdf">full speech pdf download</a>). Intriguing comments below including <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/002317.php#comment_17073">Siva</a> and a plug by librarians&#8217; own <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/002317.php#comment_17139">SuperPatron</a> on another way of harnessing the power of the Google Book Search for libraries. <small>[thanks molly]</small></p>
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		<title>find in a library?</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1629/find-in-a-library/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How come only some books in the Google Book Search have &#8220;find in a library&#8221; links next to them? Diglet asks, and gets an answer, sort of a lame one if you ask me. update: Kevin mentioned in the comments that it would be great to see this for all books in Google Books. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come only some books in the Google Book Search have &#8220;find in a library&#8221; links next to them? Diglet <a href="http://gort.ucsd.edu/mtdocs/archives/diglet/007133.html">asks</a>, and <a href="http://gort.ucsd.edu/mtdocs/archives/diglet/007137.html">gets an answer</a>, sort of a lame one if you ask me. <strong>update:</strong> Kevin mentioned in the comments that it would be great to see this for all books in Google Books. I went to bed thinking &#8220;Oh yeah, I should look into that&#8230;.&#8221; and while I was sleeping, <a href="http://vielmetti.typepad.com/superpatron/2006/02/inserting_libra.html">Superpatron, aka Ed Vielmetti solved the crime</a>, er problem, and created a Greasemonkey script (a plug-in that you can run with Firefox) that does this for Ann Arbor and can be modified for any library.</p>
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		<title>Google Books public domain book curiosities</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1570/google-books-public-domain-book-curiosities/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey clue club, any Harvard or Boston area librarians want to solve the what the heck is this mystery alluded to on this blog post? It looks like a handwritten version of the poem printed in the book, but without page numbers or any other indication that it&#8217;s part of the book. Table of Contents [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey clue club, any Harvard or Boston area librarians want to solve the <a href="http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&#038;hl=en&#038;id=rseD2v_AWHUC&#038;dq=Leaves+of+Grass&#038;prev=http://books.google.com/books%3Fq%3DLeaves%2Bof%2BGrass&#038;lpg=PP17&#038;pg=PA405&#038;printsec=4">what the heck is this</a> mystery alluded to on <a href="http://unreal-city.blogspot.com/2005/11/go-google-yourself.html">this blog post</a>? It looks like a handwritten version of the poem printed in the book, but without page numbers or any other indication that it&#8217;s part of the book. <a href="http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&#038;hl=en&#038;id=rseD2v_AWHUC&#038;dq=Leaves+of+Grass&#038;prev=http://books.google.com/books%3Fq%3DLeaves%2Bof%2BGrass&#038;lpg=PP17&#038;pg=PA7&#038;printsec=4">Table of Contents is mum on what&#8217;s going on</a>. Anyone know, or want to go check out the book at Harvard and see? <small>[thanks chase]</small></p>
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		<title>a small foray into Google Books</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1560/a-small-foray-into-google-books/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can use the date operator to browse public domain books in Google Books. I&#8217;m not entirely sure why the covers of some of these books remain under copyright. Any ideas? I&#8217;ve also noticed a few scanning errors and some pretty neat finds like this one which gives the name of every librarian in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can <a href="http://print.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&#038;q=date%3A1500-1923">use the date operator to browse public domain books</a> in Google Books. I&#8217;m not entirely sure why the covers of some of these books <a href="http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&#038;hl=en&#038;id=gP1xJA7WS6AC&#038;dq=date:1500-1923&#038;prev=http://books.google.com/books%3Fq%3Ddate:1500-1923&#038;pg=PP1&#038;printsec=0&#038;lpg=PP1&#038;sig=wxTcG_EXuGx-zH-J5OE34SrYpAg">remain under copyright</a>. Any ideas? I&#8217;ve also noticed a few <a href="http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&#038;hl=en&#038;id=oqdJElGZbPsC&#038;dq=date:1500-1923+librarian&#038;prev=http://books.google.com/books%3Fq%3Ddate:1500-1923%2Blibrarian&#038;lpg=PA15&#038;pg=PA14">scanning errors</a> and some <a href="http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&#038;hl=en&#038;id=Uwak9c6kOR4C&#038;pg=PP7&#038;lpg=PP7&#038;dq=date:1500-1923+librarian&#038;prev=http://books.google.com/books%3Fq%3Ddate:1500-1923%2Blibrarian&#038;sig=i6pr1TWziULNhe_bgb6HVu4GnYU">pretty neat finds like this one</a> which gives the name of every librarian in the US and Canada working in a library holding over 1,000 volumes. Google Books clearly uses keyword indexing to make these books searchable. How great would it be to have this one in a database? You can see a few images that I particularly liked <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamthebestartist/sets/1470868/">over at Flickr</a>.</p>
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		<title>Google Print, the beginning of atomized texts?</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1525/google-print-the-beginning-of-atomized-texts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 02:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google Print starts the scanners up again this week. What does Michael Gorman have to say about it? Is this the sort of thing that ALA needs to have a stated opinion about? Does ALA need to &#8220;get in the game&#8221;? Should we even be at a point where we are still asking these questions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Print <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB113081241343684922-wDr8xTTMWXx3PAzNoHBaameOIiA_20061101.html?mod=rss_free">starts the scanners up again</a> this week. What does <a href="http://www.copycense.com/2005/11/alas_gorman_str.html#more">Michael Gorman have to say about it</a>? Is this the sort of thing that ALA needs to have a stated opinion about? Does ALA need to &#8220;get in the game&#8221;? Should we even be at a point where we are still asking these questions?</p>
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		<title>Open Library/Open Content Alliance announcement from Archive.org</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1520/open-library-announcement-from-archiveorg/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 02:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi. This is the presentation that Andrea and I are watching right now in San Francisco. The Open Library. Brewster Kahle is talking now and doing a book scanning demonstration. I like how he says &#8220;librarians&#8221; a lot. Vision of an Open Library The Web is So post-1996, what about older content? Everyone is part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. This is the presentation that Andrea and I are watching right now in San Francisco. <a href="http://www.openlibrary.org/details/openlibrary">The Open Library</a>. Brewster Kahle is talking now and doing a book scanning demonstration. I like how he says &#8220;librarians&#8221; a lot. </p>
<p>Vision of an Open Library</p>
<p>The Web is So post-1996, what about older content?</p>
<p>Everyone is part of it: Amazon helps &#8220;expand the bookstore&#8221; but we&#8217;re looking for inclusivity.</p>
<p>&#8220;A great library for the published works of humankind, accessible to all&#8230; everybody involved&#8230; libraries LIVE based on the publishing system, they will be involved.&#8221;</p>
<p>3 to 4 billion of the 12 billion libraries spend every year goes to publishing. Let&#8217;s have more of that go to fairly compensating everyone.</p>
<p>&#8220;For the near term, we&#8217;re making books from books.&#8221; It&#8217;s hard to digitze a book that looks like the original, this is the proof that can work.</p>
<p>1. <strong>Selection</strong>. librarians choose books. Start with out of copyright materials, work towards in print, orphans next. &#8220;we&#8217;re not going to run out&#8221;<br />
2. <strong>Scanning</strong>. 500 dpi &#8220;scribe system&#8221; 30-60 min per book. &#8220;we can read a 2 pt typeface, straight on&#8221; metadata, saved to archive<br />
3. <strong>Cataloging</strong>. Use library data and coordinate between scanning centers using MetaFetch. Groups like RLG are coordinating.<br />
4. <strong>Copyright</strong>. Copyright law is &#8220;a little confusing&#8221; Evidence based interface allows a Q&#038;A &#8220;is this book under copyright&#8221; interrogation. Many books not re-registered copyright-wise. Already scanned copyright renewal records into a searchable database. Larry Lessig is bringing a suit re: orphan works and whether they can be in the virtual library. Other for-profits are working back the other way. It&#8217;s &#8220;tricky but doable&#8221;<br />
5. <strong>Storage</strong>. 6 GB per book, hard to scale. Built a petabyte-scale machine &#8220;petabox&#8221; [I saw it] low power, runs cool, &#8220;set top boxes&#8221; not full computers with OSes etc. Object is not to have one box in an earthquake zone, but distributed system in flood zones &#038; elsewhere.<br />
6. <strong>Readers</strong>. Software. Check it out <a href="http://openlibrary.org">at openlibrary.org</a>. UC librarians chose early set of books already scanned. Also looking into PDFs for printing. Also working with <a href="http://www.lulu.com">lulu.com</a> for print on demand. Also, you can listen to these books.</p>
<p>Other mentioned projects: <a href="http://www.icdlbooks.org/">ICDL</a>, <a href="http://www.archive.org/texts/bookmobile.php">Internet Archive Bookmobile</a> [buck a book!]. <a href="http://www.bookshare.org/">BookShare</a> will use this content for access for the blind. $100 laptop will be integrating books from this project onto their laptops [big news!]. <a href="http://www.opencontentalliance.org/">Open Content Alliance</a> to create protocols and formats.</p>
<p>Brewster Kahle: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what it will be like to have books from our libraries injected into our culture again, but I&#8217;d like to see it&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Knowledge for the World&#8221; is the mantra that all the funders [on and off the podium, 30 seconds each: <a href="http://www.si.edu/">Smithsonian</a> (museums/content), <a href="http://yahoo.com">Yahoo</a>, <a href="http://www.sloan.org/">Sloan Foundation</a> (funding), <a href="http://www.jhu.edu/">Johns Hopkins</a> (content/tech), <a href="http://www.rlg.org/">RLG</a> (cataloging), <a href="http://adobe.com">Adobe</a> (display/doc formatting), <a href="http://hp.com">HP</a> (scan), <a href="http://www.lizardtech.com/">LizardTech</a> (data compression), <a href="Lulu.com">Lulu.com</a> (printing), <a href="http://search.msn.com/">MSN Search</a> (search/funding) etc]</p>
<p>Guy from Yahoo &#8220;Finally a library I won&#8217;t get thrown out of&#8221; and &#8220;Find, use, share, and expand all human knowledge&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.librarytechtonics.info/archives/2005/10/open_library_pr.html">Andrea has more</a>, including some links that I missed.</p>
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		<title>Google print, a card catalog for the future?</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1480/google-print-a-card-catalog-for-the-future/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 01:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why EFF thinks Google Print Library is going to win the lawsuit brought by the Author&#8217;s Guild. The AG in turn has their own talking points about the case. Read the longer copyright analysis of the Google Print project if you&#8217;re really curious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why EFF thinks <a href="http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2005_09.php#003994">Google Print Library is going to win</a> the <a href="http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5875384.html?tag=st.util.print">lawsuit</a> brought by the <a href="http://www.authorsguild.org/">Author&#8217;s Guild</a>. The AG in turn has <a href="http://www.authorsguild.org/news/charity_handy_talking.htm">their own talking points</a> about the case. Read <a href="http://www.policybandwidth.com/doc/googleprint.pdf">the longer copyright analysis</a> of the Google Print project if you&#8217;re really curious.</p>
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		<title>google print on hold, continued</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1435/google-print-on-hold-continued/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google Print Library going on hold over copyright is big news in our world. Copyfight followed up on the story. Of particular interest is the comments with people speculating on the copyright-kosherness of a publicly traded for-profit company freely scanning, copying and indexing content that is not owned by them without negotiating for rights. Other [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Print Library going on hold over copyright is big news in our world. Copyfight <a href="http://www.corante.com/copyfight/archives/2005/08/12/google_sells_out_users_to_publishers.php">followed up on the story</a>. Of particular interest is the comments with people speculating on the copyright-kosherness of a publicly traded for-profit company freely scanning, copying and indexing content that is not owned by them without negotiating for rights. Other popular copyfighters <a href="http://www.nyu.edu/classes/siva/archives/001849.html">Siva</a> and <a href="http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/000898.html">Seth</a> have worthwhile insights.</p>
<blockquote><p>Siva &#8220;Once again, I think we should recognize that unless we think copyright should not exist, copyright holders should be able to decide when to license their works to other companies. This is far from absolute. But it&#8217;s common sense and generally true. Only in unusual circumstances, such as when markets fail to provide an essential public good, should we consider radical moves. This is not one of those cases. The service is not an essential public good &#8212; just a cool idea. And the market was not failing. Publishers were at the table&#8230;. Google messed up by going all unilateral on the publishers. There was no market failure here. Transaction costs were not prohibitive. They were working out the deal. This was not the recording industry shunning Napster. This was how copyright is supposed to work.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Seth: Why is Google doing this book-scanning project? It&#8217;s not because it&#8217;s just so cool (even if it is). While coolness may justify a small-scale promotional project, the scanning efforts are expensive. So Google, as a company, obviously sees some value in the effort. This is not wrong. But it&#8217;s also a direct conflict with the granted monopoly know as copyright. Whenever there is value, particularly commercial value, there is conflict over who should be able to receive it.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>stop the press&#8230; or &#8230; the scanner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Google Print Library Project is going to hold off scanning books which are still under copyright until November. More over at Wired. This information was available on the official Google Blog [according to another Google blog] and quoted in the BBC article, and elsewhere, but the post itself is no longer there. Curious. [update: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://print.google.com/googleprint/library.html">Google Print Library Project</a> is going to <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4146488.stm">hold off scanning books</a> which are still under copyright until November. More over at <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,68513,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_5">Wired</a>. This information <em>was</em> available on the official Google Blog [according to <a href="http://google.blogspace.com/sellout">another Google blog</a>] and quoted in the BBC article, and <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/050812-092725">elsewhere</a>, but the post itself is no longer there. Curious. [update: the <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/08/making-books-easier-to-find.html">post</a> wasn't missing/deleted, it was being update with new info, it's back]</p>
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		<title>how we got to know what Google/Umich agreed to</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is the Google/UMich contract being posted in the first place? Doesn&#8217;t it say CONFIDENTIAL all over it? Well, if you&#8217;re a public university, you can&#8217;t just make confidential agreements without them being subject to freedom of information laws. More on the Google Watch site, and a little more over at the LibraryLaw blog in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the Google/UMich contract being posted in the first place? Doesn&#8217;t it say CONFIDENTIAL all over it? Well, if you&#8217;re a public university, you can&#8217;t just make confidential agreements without them being subject to freedom of information laws. More on the <a href="http://www.google-watch.org/umich.html">Google Watch site</a>, and a little more <a href="http://blog.librarylaw.com/librarylaw/2005/06/google_univ_of__1.html">over at the LibraryLaw blog</a> in the form of a letter from the guy who filed the FOIA request.</p>
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		<title>Google Print contract, available for the reading</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re curious just what libraries have agreed to with their Google Print arrangements, here&#8217;s one contract [pdf] that is available online [linked from here, which is linked from here, yes, I was surprised too]. In short, it outlines what can, can&#8217;t, and must be done with the Google Digital Copy and the University of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re curious just what libraries have agreed to with their Google Print arrangements, here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.lib.umich.edu/mdp/um-google-cooperative-agreement.pdf">one contract</a> [pdf] that is available online [linked from <a href="http://www.lib.umich.edu/mdp/">here</a>, which is linked from <a href="http://www.lib.umich.edu/">here</a>, yes, I was surprised too]. In short, it outlines what can, can&#8217;t, and must be done with the Google Digital Copy and the University of Michigan&#8217;s Digital Copy of the scanned information. In short, the digital copies of public domain works are not public domain. I&#8217;m sure no one is suprised by this, but the phrase &#8220;land grab&#8221; does come to mind as I read this contract. Of particular note:
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<li>UM needs to find a way to restrict automated access, downloading of its content, or others making its content available for commercial purposes. This is more restrictive than public domain. </li>
<li>Further UM agrees to restrict use of its content to &#8220;persons having a need to access such materials&#8221; and makes particular mention to those materials not being &#8220;disseminated to the public at large&#8221; this m ay be nothing serious, or it may be </li>
<li>Google is a third party beneficiary of any agreement UM enters into with regards to the UM Digital Copy and any cooperative web service agreement such as the <a href="http://www.diglib.org/">Digital Library Federation</a> </li>
<li>Google agrees to always make searching and showing search results of the content free. </li>
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<p> It&#8217;s fascinating reading. I am certainly not a lawyer or copyright expert, I would be very interested in what other people have to say about this.</p>
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		<title>google print + harvard library</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting wrinkle in the Google Print Library project as it&#8217;s being worked out at Harvard Library. Publishers think Google needs to ask their permission before it copies their works, even if they&#8217;re in the public domain. “The law does not permit wholesale copying (which is what digitisation is) by a commercial organisation of works that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting wrinkle in the <a href="http://print.google.com/googleprint/library.html">Google Print Library</a> project <a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/today/article506429.html">as it&#8217;s being worked out at Harvard Library</a>. Publishers think Google needs to ask their permission before it copies their works, even if they&#8217;re in the public domain.<br />
<blockquote> “The law does not permit wholesale copying (which is what digitisation is) by a commercial organisation of works that are still in copyright,” she wrote. “It is also illegal to make those works available digitally once they have been copied.”</p>
<p>Morris wrote that Google needs to obtain permission from publishers before using their work. While she wrote that it may be impractical to ask every publisher, Google should ask permission through collective licensing organizations. </p></blockquote>
<p> Also interesting, seems that while Google Print actually <a href="https://print.google.com/publisher/online_faq#sending4">destroys the books it scans</a>, Google Print Library <a href="http://print.google.com/googleprint/library.html#5">does not</a>.</p>
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