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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first reaction to the Cushing Academy story was to wonder what type of electronic resources the Cushing Academy Library made available before management decided to go e-book only.  My guess is that Cushing was not acquiring and making available the web-delivered databases, ejournals, reference books, etc., made available in most libraries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction to the Cushing Academy story was to wonder what type of electronic resources the Cushing Academy Library made available before management decided to go e-book only.  My guess is that Cushing was not acquiring and making available the web-delivered databases, ejournals, reference books, etc., made available in most libraries.</p>
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		<title>By: Bibliotheken en Google in September 2009 &#171; Dee&#39;tjes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bibliotheken en Google in September 2009 &#171; Dee&#39;tjes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Inside higher education). Librarian.net heeft ook moeite met het wegdoen van de fysieke collectie: mistakes were made, books were removed. Maar zoals een van de reacties zegt:  Books and technology are not mutually exclusive. Or at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Inside higher education). Librarian.net heeft ook moeite met het wegdoen van de fysieke collectie: mistakes were made, books were removed. Maar zoals een van de reacties zegt:  Books and technology are not mutually exclusive. Or at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Barnette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Barnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to hear that Cushing Academy decided to eliminate physical books. I think they will wind-up regretting that decision. 

Although digital books are becoming more common, I think there will always be a market for paper-and-ink (physical) books.  As the article noted, it&#039;s hard to curl-up in bed with a digital book, or take a digital book to the beach with sand and waves.  I hope physical books will always exist in libraries.  Hard to imagine libraries without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to hear that Cushing Academy decided to eliminate physical books. I think they will wind-up regretting that decision. </p>
<p>Although digital books are becoming more common, I think there will always be a market for paper-and-ink (physical) books.  As the article noted, it&#8217;s hard to curl-up in bed with a digital book, or take a digital book to the beach with sand and waves.  I hope physical books will always exist in libraries.  Hard to imagine libraries without them.</p>
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		<title>By: Books are going out the door at Utah Libraries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Books are going out the door at Utah Libraries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jessamyn (4 Sep 2009) Mistakes were made, books were removed. Librarian.net [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also curious how the Kindles will be administered.  Does the student get to ask for the e-books he/she needs on them and the librarian gets them?  Is the school paying for them?  Or is the student paying for each book?  If so, does the school have the right to monitor what is on those Kindles while they&#039;re checked out or in use?  And once something is bought for that Kindle, does it just stay on there, regardless of who purchased it?

I have all sorts of questions about this.  I mean, hey, who wouldn&#039;t want a Kindle?  But by my count, they&#039;re about 382 shy, and I&#039;m curious how long they&#039;ll last and what problems will crop up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also curious how the Kindles will be administered.  Does the student get to ask for the e-books he/she needs on them and the librarian gets them?  Is the school paying for them?  Or is the student paying for each book?  If so, does the school have the right to monitor what is on those Kindles while they&#8217;re checked out or in use?  And once something is bought for that Kindle, does it just stay on there, regardless of who purchased it?</p>
<p>I have all sorts of questions about this.  I mean, hey, who wouldn&#8217;t want a Kindle?  But by my count, they&#8217;re about 382 shy, and I&#8217;m curious how long they&#8217;ll last and what problems will crop up.</p>
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		<title>By: Is this the future? &#124; Okie Reads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is this the future? &#124; Okie Reads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an article from Jessamyn at librarian.net about the end of the college library, or not? It&#8217;s all a little scary to me and i&#8217;m a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Bookless Library? &#171; Library Shop Talk</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Bookless Library? &#171; Library Shop Talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other librarians have joined the discussion of this move, such as Jessamyn West, Linda Braun, Rory Litwin, and Buffy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Keith Michael Fiels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Michael Fiels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, my comments were quite freely edited. 

On one hand, the reporter was interested in a broad overview of my thoughts on the long term future of books. What he did not quote were my concerns that eliminating books under the guise of being &quot;progressive&quot;, without a plan for adequately meeting the reading interests of Cushing students, was not in the best interests of those students. Harry Potter should be evidence enough that recreational reading of books is still very big, and independant reading has a significant impact on student achievement, bith short and long term. 

While I did not know it at the time, I now understand that the school will be providing 18 Kindles to meet the needs of 400 students! This is not a plan, it&#039;s a disater for these kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, my comments were quite freely edited. </p>
<p>On one hand, the reporter was interested in a broad overview of my thoughts on the long term future of books. What he did not quote were my concerns that eliminating books under the guise of being &#8220;progressive&#8221;, without a plan for adequately meeting the reading interests of Cushing students, was not in the best interests of those students. Harry Potter should be evidence enough that recreational reading of books is still very big, and independant reading has a significant impact on student achievement, bith short and long term. </p>
<p>While I did not know it at the time, I now understand that the school will be providing 18 Kindles to meet the needs of 400 students! This is not a plan, it&#8217;s a disater for these kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Auntie Nanuuq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auntie Nanuuq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Library as from Liber as to BOOK!  No books, NO Library!

Um maybe: Uber-study-hall.

What morons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Library as from Liber as to BOOK!  No books, NO Library!</p>
<p>Um maybe: Uber-study-hall.</p>
<p>What morons!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that worries me most about this is short-sighted administrators seeing this and saying, &quot;Well, look what this school in Massachusetts did. Why can&#039;t we follow suit?&quot; I think I could argue them down in my current job, but in my previous position, where my supervisor was clearly of the mind that &quot;everything students need, they can find on the Internet,&quot; that probably wouldn&#039;t be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that worries me most about this is short-sighted administrators seeing this and saying, &#8220;Well, look what this school in Massachusetts did. Why can&#8217;t we follow suit?&#8221; I think I could argue them down in my current job, but in my previous position, where my supervisor was clearly of the mind that &#8220;everything students need, they can find on the Internet,&#8221; that probably wouldn&#8217;t be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: robotic librarian &#171; adj.librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>robotic librarian &#171; adj.librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a comment &#187;  The demise of the library is a tired refrain. A story cropped up on our state listserv. &#8220;A library without the books&#8221; spurred&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a comment &raquo;  The demise of the library is a tired refrain. A story cropped up on our state listserv. &#8220;A library without the books&#8221; spurred&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dermitage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dermitage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I though that this idea is very nice and interesting,but i have confusion that if librarian not purchases book than what happen with libraries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I though that this idea is very nice and interesting,but i have confusion that if librarian not purchases book than what happen with libraries?</p>
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		<title>By: Somerville Public Library Blog » Libraries Without Books?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somerville Public Library Blog » Libraries Without Books?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By now I&#8217;m sure all of you have heard that nearby Cushing Academy has chucked all its books and replaced the reference desk with a cappuccino machine. It&#8217;s a decision that&#8217;s, um, interesting, to say the least. However, it does raise questions about the future of libraries and books.  Many (but by no means all) of our patrons come here for Internet access and little else, but we still lend an enormous number of books&#8211;witness our circulation statistics and our shelving backlog.  Tech pundits have been predicting the death of the book for thirty years now, and it hasn&#8217;t happened yet.  But I thought it worth pulling together some recent reports and comments in the media and blogosphere about this case in particular as well as libraries and books in general. Here&#8217;s an e-book lover&#8217;s take on the elimination of the physical collection, and here is what Christopher Dawson of ZDNet has to say about it. And longtime library consultant Jessamyn West has some thoughts on the matter. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] By now I&#8217;m sure all of you have heard that nearby Cushing Academy has chucked all its books and replaced the reference desk with a cappuccino machine. It&#8217;s a decision that&#8217;s, um, interesting, to say the least. However, it does raise questions about the future of libraries and books.  Many (but by no means all) of our patrons come here for Internet access and little else, but we still lend an enormous number of books&#8211;witness our circulation statistics and our shelving backlog.  Tech pundits have been predicting the death of the book for thirty years now, and it hasn&#8217;t happened yet.  But I thought it worth pulling together some recent reports and comments in the media and blogosphere about this case in particular as well as libraries and books in general. Here&#8217;s an e-book lover&#8217;s take on the elimination of the physical collection, and here is what Christopher Dawson of ZDNet has to say about it. And longtime library consultant Jessamyn West has some thoughts on the matter. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a devoted e-book fan. but. what if cushing academy&#039;s idea doesn&#039;t work? how much will it cost them to change their minds and re-acquire print? 

the answer to &#039;what if the battery dies or the power goes off&#039; can be applied to a lot of things, and was the obvious first thing people thought of in the early days of library automation, yet libraries have automated, and that&#039;s been fine. the benefits have far outweighed the costs. electronic resources, though, were always problematic until remote access, on-site wifi, and unlimited user licenses came into being, permitting individuals to access those resources using *their own hardware*.

as cited in the piece above: until every student has an e-book reader and an unlimited book buying budget (or a device that will permit electronic borrowing); and until all that is available in print is available electronically, it&#039;s more than a little nutty to just dump print. especially now, when e-book/e-reader technology is still really expensive, and none of the business models have even been worked out. geez. look at overdrive and netlibrary. *those* systems haven&#039;t been hammered out yet either, and they&#039;ve been around for over ten years.

and what the heck is this &#039;libraries must be their own disruptors&#039;-cr@p? when was the last time that person visited a library? 1955? decisions informed only by assumptions drive me crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a devoted e-book fan. but. what if cushing academy&#8217;s idea doesn&#8217;t work? how much will it cost them to change their minds and re-acquire print? </p>
<p>the answer to &#8216;what if the battery dies or the power goes off&#8217; can be applied to a lot of things, and was the obvious first thing people thought of in the early days of library automation, yet libraries have automated, and that&#8217;s been fine. the benefits have far outweighed the costs. electronic resources, though, were always problematic until remote access, on-site wifi, and unlimited user licenses came into being, permitting individuals to access those resources using *their own hardware*.</p>
<p>as cited in the piece above: until every student has an e-book reader and an unlimited book buying budget (or a device that will permit electronic borrowing); and until all that is available in print is available electronically, it&#8217;s more than a little nutty to just dump print. especially now, when e-book/e-reader technology is still really expensive, and none of the business models have even been worked out. geez. look at overdrive and netlibrary. *those* systems haven&#8217;t been hammered out yet either, and they&#8217;ve been around for over ten years.</p>
<p>and what the heck is this &#8216;libraries must be their own disruptors&#8217;-cr@p? when was the last time that person visited a library? 1955? decisions informed only by assumptions drive me crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens when the battery dies or the power goes off?? That&#039;s the good thing about paper copies yo can read them no matter what is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens when the battery dies or the power goes off?? That&#8217;s the good thing about paper copies yo can read them no matter what is going on.</p>
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