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	<title>Comments on: Koha and LibLime and the letter and the spirit of open source</title>
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		<title>By: Code4Jays &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trouble in paradise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Code4Jays &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trouble in paradise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is free, open-source software not-free, open-source software?  When a paying customer embargoes the enhancements they paid for from being added to the core product for the benefit of all users. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is free, open-source software not-free, open-source software?  When a paying customer embargoes the enhancements they paid for from being added to the core product for the benefit of all users. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that you you have it to be inverted. LibLime which wants to hold the leash of the code, in order to acquire the competitive advantage in the market. It&#039; s WALDO which is used as front for LibLime&#039; wishes and desires. Read transcript closely. Why? Only WALDO and LibLime know for definitely, but the speculation that of libLime told WALDO that they they will not finish the programming if they they they do not acquire the competitive advantage. Thus, what monies of WALDO did libLime were used for? The money of contract WALDO for other things? Not [programmiruyushch]. Possible an exuberance and fast growth of liblime company? Also: what are WALDO&#039; investments (or those which do run WALDO) into LibLime? Such secrets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that you you have it to be inverted. LibLime which wants to hold the leash of the code, in order to acquire the competitive advantage in the market. It&#8217; s WALDO which is used as front for LibLime&#8217; wishes and desires. Read transcript closely. Why? Only WALDO and LibLime know for definitely, but the speculation that of libLime told WALDO that they they will not finish the programming if they they they do not acquire the competitive advantage. Thus, what monies of WALDO did libLime were used for? The money of contract WALDO for other things? Not [programmiruyushch]. Possible an exuberance and fast growth of liblime company? Also: what are WALDO&#8217; investments (or those which do run WALDO) into LibLime? Such secrets!</p>
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		<title>By: Yitzchak Schaffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yitzchak Schaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How strange.  I was at a Liblime/WALDO meeting on Long Island last year, and thought I remembered that the new features were all being rolled into the main project.  Hrrm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How strange.  I was at a Liblime/WALDO meeting on Long Island last year, and thought I remembered that the new features were all being rolled into the main project.  Hrrm.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking on the positive side, what FLOSS allows you to do is move from your vendor if you aren&#039;t happy with them, but happy with your system. You can&#039;t do that with a proprietary system. 
So while it always sad to things like this, it actually demonstrates the need for FLOSS rather than the reverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking on the positive side, what FLOSS allows you to do is move from your vendor if you aren&#8217;t happy with them, but happy with your system. You can&#8217;t do that with a proprietary system.<br />
So while it always sad to things like this, it actually demonstrates the need for FLOSS rather than the reverse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hate to see things like this, because it gives ammunition to the folks who are afraid to move to open source alternatives. I work in an area that is behind the times (in many, many ways!), and whenever open source is mentioned there are just so many people who shudder and say &quot;but what if it doesn&#039;t work!?&quot; So adding a layer of &quot;weirdness&quot; like this only serves to keep those who are afraid to move stuck in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hate to see things like this, because it gives ammunition to the folks who are afraid to move to open source alternatives. I work in an area that is behind the times (in many, many ways!), and whenever open source is mentioned there are just so many people who shudder and say &#8220;but what if it doesn&#8217;t work!?&#8221; So adding a layer of &#8220;weirdness&#8221; like this only serves to keep those who are afraid to move stuck in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this! I&#039;ve passed the information onto Clara (our director). We&#039;re still working on getting moved from our system to Koha next summer and we were going to do it through Liblime in large part because of the WALDO developments, with the hopes that someday down the road, it would all be rolled into new releases and we could move toward VOKAL Koha. But it leaves a bad taste in my mouth that WALDO wants to covet their academic additions and that Liblime is happy to accommodate their desire not to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this! I&#8217;ve passed the information onto Clara (our director). We&#8217;re still working on getting moved from our system to Koha next summer and we were going to do it through Liblime in large part because of the WALDO developments, with the hopes that someday down the road, it would all be rolled into new releases and we could move toward VOKAL Koha. But it leaves a bad taste in my mouth that WALDO wants to covet their academic additions and that Liblime is happy to accommodate their desire not to share.</p>
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		<title>By: and me too</title>
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		<dc:creator>and me too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree. These WALDOs have been very happy to take all the benefits of open source but don&#039;t want to share back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. These WALDOs have been very happy to take all the benefits of open source but don&#8217;t want to share back.</p>
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		<title>By: me too</title>
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		<dc:creator>me too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How sad.  The haves want to protect their investment and not let any one else play with it.  Go back to Sirsi, Triple I or the others.  They like taking money for &quot;personalized code writing.&quot;  You guys who want to use open source to build your cathedral and keep it all to yourselves SUCK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sad.  The haves want to protect their investment and not let any one else play with it.  Go back to Sirsi, Triple I or the others.  They like taking money for &#8220;personalized code writing.&#8221;  You guys who want to use open source to build your cathedral and keep it all to yourselves SUCK.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand why libraries would be upset.  They selected the open source system Koha hosted by Liblime thinking that they&#039;d be &quot;driving their own bus&quot; and wouldn&#039;t be tied to any vendor.  Now Liblime is saying, if you&#039;re hosting Koha with us, you are stuck with Liblime if you want the system you&#039;re using today. It seems pretty misleading to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why libraries would be upset.  They selected the open source system Koha hosted by Liblime thinking that they&#8217;d be &#8220;driving their own bus&#8221; and wouldn&#8217;t be tied to any vendor.  Now Liblime is saying, if you&#8217;re hosting Koha with us, you are stuck with Liblime if you want the system you&#8217;re using today. It seems pretty misleading to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the big questions that comes out of this: Why would any client demand this? What it is about their investment that needs to be protected? That seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature open source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the big questions that comes out of this: Why would any client demand this? What it is about their investment that needs to be protected? That seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature open source.</p>
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