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	<title>Comments on: (not so) SWIFT &#8211; a look at a new conference tool</title>
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		<title>By: On not so SWIFT otters and instilling a fear of failure &#124; Information Wants To Be Free</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-118373</link>
		<dc:creator>On not so SWIFT otters and instilling a fear of failure &#124; Information Wants To Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conference platform, which I haven&#8217;t discussed publicly on this blog (though many others have on theirs &#8212; and many of them offer quite astute observations). I do think it is a deeply [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conference platform, which I haven&#8217;t discussed publicly on this blog (though many others have on theirs &#8212; and many of them offer quite astute observations). I do think it is a deeply [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Llyfrgellydd &#187; My take on SWIFT</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-117494</link>
		<dc:creator>Llyfrgellydd &#187; My take on SWIFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to address concerns that others have expressed. (For reference, see blog posts by David Lee King, Jessamyn West, Michelle Boule, and Karen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to address concerns that others have expressed. (For reference, see blog posts by David Lee King, Jessamyn West, Michelle Boule, and Karen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Try a little tenderness</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-117426</link>
		<dc:creator>Try a little tenderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disbelief, that CiL would sink money into some funky enterprise-2.0-platform we didn&#8217;t need, or even have time for &#8212; particularly considering the source. But let me make this very clear: that&#8217;s a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] disbelief, that CiL would sink money into some funky enterprise-2.0-platform we didn&#8217;t need, or even have time for &#8212; particularly considering the source. But let me make this very clear: that&#8217;s a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stuff Costs Money</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115807</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuff Costs Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they have a pay-off. Even with a modified term of service, for me to blog over on the SWIFT site makes no sense, because I&#8217;m making money (figuratively and indirectly) on my own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they have a pay-off. Even with a modified term of service, for me to blog over on the SWIFT site makes no sense, because I&#8217;m making money (figuratively and indirectly) on my own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moving SWIFTly On&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115745</link>
		<dc:creator>Moving SWIFTly On&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I haven&#8217;t been alone in that question; the Twitterverse was immediately a-flutter, and Jessamyn as usual had a direct hit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I haven&#8217;t been alone in that question; the Twitterverse was immediately a-flutter, and Jessamyn as usual had a direct hit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Uncontrolled Vocabulary #34 - Drug test not required &#124; Uncontrolled Vocabulary</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115702</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncontrolled Vocabulary #34 - Drug test not required &#124; Uncontrolled Vocabulary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (not so) SWIFT - a look at a new conference tool (librarian.net) Not Using Swift for Computers in Libraries (David Lee [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MJR: Web Applications</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115633</link>
		<dc:creator>MJR: Web Applications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Swift online community platform for conferences has been attacked by both David Lee King and librarian.net for its over-zealous user agreement demands. Particularly &quot;nice&quot; is the feature where one rule of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Swift online community platform for conferences has been attacked by both David Lee King and librarian.net for its over-zealous user agreement demands. Particularly &#8220;nice&#8221; is the feature where one rule of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Kaser</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115556</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Kaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we agreed to run this trial with Otter/Swift, I warned my contact there Kathleen Gilroy, who has commented above, that it would indeed be a test and that she would, no doubt, get an earful from the very engaged audience that we were about to deliver.

When Swift placed its initial agreement in front of me I went rather ballistic too.  And in a very long weekend, we went through about five drafts of it.  But in the end I decided to give the nice lady a break, because she really did listen to me.

I trust she will also listen to you, and the Swift service as it evolves will improve based on comments such as yours.  So keep up the good work.

Sorry you won&#039;t make it to CIL this year.  Hope to see you in &#039;09.

Dick Kaser
ITI VP, Content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we agreed to run this trial with Otter/Swift, I warned my contact there Kathleen Gilroy, who has commented above, that it would indeed be a test and that she would, no doubt, get an earful from the very engaged audience that we were about to deliver.</p>
<p>When Swift placed its initial agreement in front of me I went rather ballistic too.  And in a very long weekend, we went through about five drafts of it.  But in the end I decided to give the nice lady a break, because she really did listen to me.</p>
<p>I trust she will also listen to you, and the Swift service as it evolves will improve based on comments such as yours.  So keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Sorry you won&#8217;t make it to CIL this year.  Hope to see you in &#8216;09.</p>
<p>Dick Kaser<br />
ITI VP, Content</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Crosby</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115541</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nice job summarizing everything and finding additional information, Jessamyn.  Good to see Kathleen Gilroy respond.  Let&#039;s hope they can make amends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice job summarizing everything and finding additional information, Jessamyn.  Good to see Kathleen Gilroy respond.  Let&#8217;s hope they can make amends.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Gilroy</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115520</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Gilroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes.  There are a number of things that you found that need to be fixed.  Facebook photo:  we made the assumption that we were saving people the trouble of uploading another photo.  We do deliver information to Facebook in the form of status updates from Swift so that people can let their networks know what they plan to do at the conference.  This data also appears on SWIFT.  

You raise some important issues about our terms of service.  The service has evolved since these terms are written and at this point we are not actually hosting any content.  All we do is point to things that speakers and users own and choose to share with SWIFT via tagging.  So the TOS probably need to be fixed. And we need to get our web site caught up with the product. 

Finally, I&#039;m opening up the users group to anybody who wants to join.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes.  There are a number of things that you found that need to be fixed.  Facebook photo:  we made the assumption that we were saving people the trouble of uploading another photo.  We do deliver information to Facebook in the form of status updates from Swift so that people can let their networks know what they plan to do at the conference.  This data also appears on SWIFT.  </p>
<p>You raise some important issues about our terms of service.  The service has evolved since these terms are written and at this point we are not actually hosting any content.  All we do is point to things that speakers and users own and choose to share with SWIFT via tagging.  So the TOS probably need to be fixed. And we need to get our web site caught up with the product. </p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;m opening up the users group to anybody who wants to join.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115516</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they sure as hell aren&#039;t podcasts. Echoes of ALA 2.0 Bootcamp all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they sure as hell aren&#8217;t podcasts. Echoes of ALA 2.0 Bootcamp all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Using Swift for Computers in Libraries : David Lee King</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2261/not-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-115514</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Using Swift for Computers in Libraries : David Lee King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m opting out. Why? Read the Terms of Service document (found via Jessamyn&#8217;s post). There&#8217;s some language there that I don&#8217;t agree with. Let me [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m opting out. Why? Read the Terms of Service document (found via Jessamyn&#8217;s post). There&#8217;s some language there that I don&#8217;t agree with. Let me [...]</p>
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