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	<title>Comments on: Michael Gorman, blogging on Britannica</title>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2064/michael-gorman-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-95475</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may not be a &quot;citizen surgeon movement&quot; per se, but doctors use those unreliable web tools just as much as the rest of us.

And maybe they&#039;re not all that unreliable. A study in the &lt;em&gt;New England Journal of Medicine&lt;/em&gt; (as reported last fall by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6132856.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BBC&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415562&amp;in_page_id=1770&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Daily Mail&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) found that a Google search correctly diagnosed diseases 58% of the time. Considering the fact that doctors only correctly diagnose fatal illnesses 80% of the time (according to the &lt;em&gt;Mail&lt;/em&gt;), that&#039;s something worth thinking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may not be a &#8220;citizen surgeon movement&#8221; per se, but doctors use those unreliable web tools just as much as the rest of us.</p>
<p>And maybe they&#8217;re not all that unreliable. A study in the <em>New England Journal of Medicine</em> (as reported last fall by the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6132856.stm" rel="nofollow">BBC</a> and the <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415562&amp;in_page_id=1770" rel="nofollow"><em>Daily Mail</em></a>) found that a Google search correctly diagnosed diseases 58% of the time. Considering the fact that doctors only correctly diagnose fatal illnesses 80% of the time (according to the <em>Mail</em>), that&#8217;s something worth thinking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Ananke</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2064/michael-gorman-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-95446</link>
		<dc:creator>Ananke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The similarities between the body mod community and Web 2.0 are surprising. Both communities have an intense pride in innovation, sharing and creation, but still respect individual artists and the need to make a living. 

The advanced body mods are often hooked up online as well, for the anonymity and the research. Also for sharing. Personally I&#039;m all for the guy with the scalpel having read all he can from every source he can find and THEN making a decision. Just like I prefer my tattoo artist to know where her inks are from and what is in them.  The core of Web 2.0 and the body mod community is information sharing and making it mean something. Web 2.0 kinda stops there though, whereas body mods go a bit further.

Also, I thought you might like &lt;a&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The similarities between the body mod community and Web 2.0 are surprising. Both communities have an intense pride in innovation, sharing and creation, but still respect individual artists and the need to make a living. </p>
<p>The advanced body mods are often hooked up online as well, for the anonymity and the research. Also for sharing. Personally I&#8217;m all for the guy with the scalpel having read all he can from every source he can find and THEN making a decision. Just like I prefer my tattoo artist to know where her inks are from and what is in them.  The core of Web 2.0 and the body mod community is information sharing and making it mean something. Web 2.0 kinda stops there though, whereas body mods go a bit further.</p>
<p>Also, I thought you might like <a>this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: down the drain &#171; booktruck.org</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2064/michael-gorman-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-95395</link>
		<dc:creator>down the drain &#171; booktruck.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Everyone and everyone who blogs about libraries has been talking about Michael Gorman&#8217;s blazes on the Britannica blog, and about some weird public blog dissing at NASIG. Okaaay. I think it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s the same old debate, floated for the millionth time. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Everyone and everyone who blogs about libraries has been talking about Michael Gorman&#8217;s blazes on the Britannica blog, and about some weird public blog dissing at NASIG. Okaaay. I think it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s the same old debate, floated for the millionth time. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Revoluci&#243;n Social &#171; Alusión&#8230;Llamada Virtual</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2064/michael-gorman-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-95226</link>
		<dc:creator>Revoluci&#243;n Social &#171; Alusión&#8230;Llamada Virtual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 vs Michael Gorman &#171; JPLL 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2064/michael-gorman-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-95102</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 vs Michael Gorman &#171; JPLL 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jessamyn West weighs in&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2064/michael-gorman-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-95075</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there is room for both experts and an educated public.  The attitude you&#039;re irked about has bothered me for some time.  

I also think the average person may have a level of experience or expertise that acedemics are either unaware of or intimidated by... just because someone posted it online, doesn&#039;t automatically make it crap.  Which is what some of my professors would say.  If you&#039;re looking for information on mailart, sheep breeding  or bagpiping the experts may very well be found online, not in any academic institution.

Wikipedia isn&#039;t the devil as so many instructors think.  It is what it is, information deposited by all kinds of people, some of it&#039;s good some of it&#039;s not.  I wouldn&#039;t cite it for a paper, but if you want to learn to play bunko- what&#039;s wrong with Wikipedia?

I think evaluation is a key skill in our current society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there is room for both experts and an educated public.  The attitude you&#8217;re irked about has bothered me for some time.  </p>
<p>I also think the average person may have a level of experience or expertise that acedemics are either unaware of or intimidated by&#8230; just because someone posted it online, doesn&#8217;t automatically make it crap.  Which is what some of my professors would say.  If you&#8217;re looking for information on mailart, sheep breeding  or bagpiping the experts may very well be found online, not in any academic institution.</p>
<p>Wikipedia isn&#8217;t the devil as so many instructors think.  It is what it is, information deposited by all kinds of people, some of it&#8217;s good some of it&#8217;s not.  I wouldn&#8217;t cite it for a paper, but if you want to learn to play bunko- what&#8217;s wrong with Wikipedia?</p>
<p>I think evaluation is a key skill in our current society.</p>
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		<title>By: LibrarySupportStaff.Org &#187; Michael Gorman&#8217;s Sleep of Reason</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibrarySupportStaff.Org &#187; Michael Gorman&#8217;s Sleep of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] found on Free Range Librarian, also: good commentary on Librarian.net   &#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/2064/michael-gorman-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-95042</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course, there may be no &#039;citizen surgeon&#039; movement, but there IS a recognized and much-talked about trend of patients researching their own medical conditions online, and showing up to their doctors with information. Which can be good or bad, of course. 

Some people say this is an awful thing, some people say it&#039;s a good thing---to me, the smartest people say, it IS a thing, like it or not, and the public health goal is to help people improve the medical research they are doing on their own, and to get doctors and patients interacting better in this new information environment. Rather than attempt some futile war to get patients to stop doing this. (Just trust everything the doctor says? No thanks. I&#039;ve had too many run-ins with bad doctors. And I&#039;m a fairly wealthy white male!)

There is indeed an analogy here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, there may be no &#8216;citizen surgeon&#8217; movement, but there IS a recognized and much-talked about trend of patients researching their own medical conditions online, and showing up to their doctors with information. Which can be good or bad, of course. </p>
<p>Some people say this is an awful thing, some people say it&#8217;s a good thing&#8212;to me, the smartest people say, it IS a thing, like it or not, and the public health goal is to help people improve the medical research they are doing on their own, and to get doctors and patients interacting better in this new information environment. Rather than attempt some futile war to get patients to stop doing this. (Just trust everything the doctor says? No thanks. I&#8217;ve had too many run-ins with bad doctors. And I&#8217;m a fairly wealthy white male!)</p>
<p>There is indeed an analogy here.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorman vs. the straw-people &#171; John Miedema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorman vs. the straw-people &#171; John Miedema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 13th, 2007   This week Michael Gorman posted an article in the Britannica Blog: Web 2.0: The Sleep of Reason, Part I and Part 2. Thanks Jessamyn West. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] June 13th, 2007   This week Michael Gorman posted an article in the Britannica Blog: Web 2.0: The Sleep of Reason, Part I and Part 2. Thanks Jessamyn West. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: royce</title>
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		<dc:creator>royce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main issue is with the whole &quot;two-part&quot; blog posting. 

You have to really be banking on me having the time or mental capacity to remember that there is a second part.

This in its itself is a very telling action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main issue is with the whole &#8220;two-part&#8221; blog posting. </p>
<p>You have to really be banking on me having the time or mental capacity to remember that there is a second part.</p>
<p>This in its itself is a very telling action.</p>
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		<title>By: david lee king</title>
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		<dc:creator>david lee king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know? I&#039;m glad he can post this stuff to the web. That way, his peers can review him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know? I&#8217;m glad he can post this stuff to the web. That way, his peers can review him&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jessamyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Ananke, that is a really interesting point....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Ananke, that is a really interesting point&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: the goblin in the library &#8250; Gorman With the Wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>the goblin in the library &#8250; Gorman With the Wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anything else I could possibly say about his two-part essay has already been said, and much better than I could have done, by Jason Griffey, Karen G. Schneider, Jessamyn West, and Meredith Farkas.    This was written by josh. Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007, at 7:29 pm. Filed under tech, librarianship, web, information. Bookmark the permalink. Follow comments here with the RSS feed. Post a comment or leave a trackback. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anything else I could possibly say about his two-part essay has already been said, and much better than I could have done, by Jason Griffey, Karen G. Schneider, Jessamyn West, and Meredith Farkas.    This was written by josh. Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007, at 7:29 pm. Filed under tech, librarianship, web, information. Bookmark the permalink. Follow comments here with the RSS feed. Post a comment or leave a trackback. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ananke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ananke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would posit that with the increasing sophistication of the body modification movement, there are &#039;citizen surgeons&#039; out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would posit that with the increasing sophistication of the body modification movement, there are &#8216;citizen surgeons&#8217; out there.</p>
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