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	<title>Comments on: libraries build communities, don&#8217;t you think?</title>
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		<title>By: chrystie</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrystie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[coming back from vacation, though i know this conversation is a bit old now] one thing i&#039;m conscious of: i am a relatively new librarian. most everything is new to me. so what can i contribute to the literature/discourse around community building that isn&#039;t already well known by my veteran colleagues? it certainly is a challenge to sort all that out, and while, perhaps, there is some value in the synthesis &amp; repositioning of some ideas that have been with us for a while, I certainly hope that&#039;s not all we come up with. we&#039;re working on a simple, practical guide (if you will) for community building that libraries can refer to, orient themselves, and use to move towards a next step or new goal. is there anything &quot;new&quot; about that? i&#039;m not entirely sure. but will it be useful? i&#039;m more hopeful about that. 

while on vacation i finished &quot;slam dunks and no brainers: language in your life, the media, business, politics, and, like, whatever&quot; by leslie savan. her chapter on &quot;the community of commitment centered words&quot; reminded me that we have to have intention and, really, integrity around &quot;community-building&quot; when we talk about it, otherwise it&#039;s just a lot of puff. after reading her chapter i went back to one of our chapter drafts with a new eye. we did ok, but there were a few spots where the community puff was hiding real substantive contribution - not surprisingly, our editor noticed something awry in the same spots. so, back to the drawing board...

one more thing - with all this techy CB stuff going on - there will be something &quot;new&quot; in the positioning of both online &amp; local community building as essentially the same type of activity. but, we&#039;ll see how that goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[coming back from vacation, though i know this conversation is a bit old now] one thing i&#8217;m conscious of: i am a relatively new librarian. most everything is new to me. so what can i contribute to the literature/discourse around community building that isn&#8217;t already well known by my veteran colleagues? it certainly is a challenge to sort all that out, and while, perhaps, there is some value in the synthesis &amp; repositioning of some ideas that have been with us for a while, I certainly hope that&#8217;s not all we come up with. we&#8217;re working on a simple, practical guide (if you will) for community building that libraries can refer to, orient themselves, and use to move towards a next step or new goal. is there anything &#8220;new&#8221; about that? i&#8217;m not entirely sure. but will it be useful? i&#8217;m more hopeful about that. </p>
<p>while on vacation i finished &#8220;slam dunks and no brainers: language in your life, the media, business, politics, and, like, whatever&#8221; by leslie savan. her chapter on &#8220;the community of commitment centered words&#8221; reminded me that we have to have intention and, really, integrity around &#8220;community-building&#8221; when we talk about it, otherwise it&#8217;s just a lot of puff. after reading her chapter i went back to one of our chapter drafts with a new eye. we did ok, but there were a few spots where the community puff was hiding real substantive contribution &#8211; not surprisingly, our editor noticed something awry in the same spots. so, back to the drawing board&#8230;</p>
<p>one more thing &#8211; with all this techy CB stuff going on &#8211; there will be something &#8220;new&#8221; in the positioning of both online &amp; local community building as essentially the same type of activity. but, we&#8217;ll see how that goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Linkability Is Community &#171; MaisonBisson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1743/libraries-build-communities-dont-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-8440</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkability Is Community &#171; MaisonBisson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 15:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We talk here and there about how “libraries build community,” but how does that work in the online world? How do our systems support or inhibit community discussions online? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We talk here and there about how “libraries build community,” but how does that work in the online world? How do our systems support or inhibit community discussions online? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Linkability Is Community &#171; MaisonBisson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.librarian.net/stax/1743/libraries-build-communities-dont-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-8441</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkability Is Community &#171; MaisonBisson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 15:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We talk here and there about how “libraries build community,” but how does that work in the online world? How do our systems support or inhibit community discussions online? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We talk here and there about how “libraries build community,” but how does that work in the online world? How do our systems support or inhibit community discussions online? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jessamyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 10:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I still have to go read the rest of the blurbs once I can print the thing out. To me, the interesting question is (sort of as I said ) &quot;Why don&#039;t ALL libraries build community?&quot; because obviously that&#039;s what they should be doing, public libraries anyhow. Around here sometimes it&#039;s funding, or the librarian/board relationship or sometimes a librarian who is at large with her community for one reason or another. 

Back when I was an outreach librarian, it was clear that there was the &quot;library community&quot; in town and then the people who never came to the library. Figuring out why those people didn&#039;t come in -- fines they&#039;d gotten as teenagers, reference librarians who were unpleasant to them, can&#039;t talk on cell phones, bad library hours -- and seeing what we could do about those things was a really interesting challenge. 

I&#039;m looking forward to reading what you and Steven have written mostly because I&#039;m really interested in the question &quot;what more is there to say about this?&quot; and I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll have several good answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I still have to go read the rest of the blurbs once I can print the thing out. To me, the interesting question is (sort of as I said ) &#8220;Why don&#8217;t ALL libraries build community?&#8221; because obviously that&#8217;s what they should be doing, public libraries anyhow. Around here sometimes it&#8217;s funding, or the librarian/board relationship or sometimes a librarian who is at large with her community for one reason or another. </p>
<p>Back when I was an outreach librarian, it was clear that there was the &#8220;library community&#8221; in town and then the people who never came to the library. Figuring out why those people didn&#8217;t come in &#8212; fines they&#8217;d gotten as teenagers, reference librarians who were unpleasant to them, can&#8217;t talk on cell phones, bad library hours &#8212; and seeing what we could do about those things was a really interesting challenge. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to reading what you and Steven have written mostly because I&#8217;m really interested in the question &#8220;what more is there to say about this?&#8221; and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll have several good answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrystie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrystie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 00:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it has suddenly seemed sort of trendy to talk about libraries &amp; community building, as if ... we haven&#039;t been doing it all the while. I am conscious that my/Steven&#039;s work for our book (small beans compared to the real community building work that libraries are doing) is maybe adding to that. It&#039;s good though that there&#039;s a new bit of energy about the topic, and I&#039;m also hopeful that the good stuff, the success stories of libraries doing community-focused programs, collections, etc. will come out through all of the ... &quot;diverse community of commitment-centered&quot; (taken from the book I&#039;m currently reading - Slam Dunks &amp; No Brainers - can&#039;t remember the author) hub-bub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it has suddenly seemed sort of trendy to talk about libraries &amp; community building, as if &#8230; we haven&#8217;t been doing it all the while. I am conscious that my/Steven&#8217;s work for our book (small beans compared to the real community building work that libraries are doing) is maybe adding to that. It&#8217;s good though that there&#8217;s a new bit of energy about the topic, and I&#8217;m also hopeful that the good stuff, the success stories of libraries doing community-focused programs, collections, etc. will come out through all of the &#8230; &#8220;diverse community of commitment-centered&#8221; (taken from the book I&#8217;m currently reading &#8211; Slam Dunks &amp; No Brainers &#8211; can&#8217;t remember the author) hub-bub.</p>
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